RolStoppable said: Ail said: routsounmanman said: ...then the nightmare of all for third parties, frankly, is the Wii. The Wii is a Monopoly box in a closet! I've got my Wii Sports and I'm good! I take it out, get the family around, we flail around for a couple hours, and we're happy until next month when we take it out, or maybe for junior's birthday, I'm going to buy him a Mario game." - Danny Bilson, SVP of creative development at THQ Mr. Bilson went on to discuss Wii support, and how THQ was at one time bringing over hardcore titles, but have since stopped that. "(We plan to) greenlight more Wii games: family, casual, get everyone on the couch games. I'm a big believer in that. Right now, we're not moving hardcore stuff to the Wii. We were; we stopped it, just because we're a little risk averse. I want to be with the culture of the Monopoly box in the closet – I've got to feed them. I've got to get them to want to buy another game, because they're not the gamers that are looking forward to the next thing next week in putting in the pre-orders and all that." http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=84557   I really can't understand how developers / publishers think anymore. Even if THQ is right and 3rd party sell nothing on Wii, even if all Wii install base is casuals buying no games, how can you possibly OUTRIGHT INSULT the very customer group you're aiming at? It's a basic marketing / business principle!!!  Iwata called Japanese Wii owners fickle and I didn't see anyone in an uproar... That's because I don't know what that word exactly means.

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This reads like a sony press release.

I find it INCREDIBALLY hard to believe that entertainment center space is at such a premium that all of these people are unplugging their Wiis to shove them in a closet, just to drag them out again to play them. I've never heard of such a thing.

I find this very suspicious, and not back at all by any reality.

radha said: is amazing how no matter how many developers say this, wii fans now better. So game companies are just full of fanboys that dont want to make money so they are trolling on the wii?

Yeah, it's not like there's any evidence which contradicts what this guy says on the front page of this very web site, verified by other tracking firms. I don't know why people aren't just taking this guy's word for it.

"...It's a big conglomeration of junk and the Nintendo stuff pops, and a couple of other things pop, and that's it. On PS3 and 360, same day, there was a nice neat little 25 SKUs that they were showing for each one on the rack, and it was easy to see what's there and to see a general level of quality. The Wii is just flooded with junk and all kinds of stuff."

The one thing that was said in the article that made sense is that the Wii has ALOT of software on it. I think because of the way Wii sold it received more software then the PS2 did at this point in time. Truly the Wii storefront needs to be purged abit...

The part where I drown him out is where he talks about the Wii in the closet, or that amount of "junk" on the system when his very company publishes some of the "Junk" as well.

Ail said: routsounmanman said: ...then the nightmare of all for third parties, frankly, is the Wii. The Wii is a Monopoly box in a closet! I've got my Wii Sports and I'm good! I take it out, get the family around, we flail around for a couple hours, and we're happy until next month when we take it out, or maybe for junior's birthday, I'm going to buy him a Mario game." - Danny Bilson, SVP of creative development at THQ Mr. Bilson went on to discuss Wii support, and how THQ was at one time bringing over hardcore titles, but have since stopped that. "(We plan to) greenlight more Wii games: family, casual, get everyone on the couch games. I'm a big believer in that. Right now, we're not moving hardcore stuff to the Wii. We were; we stopped it, just because we're a little risk averse. I want to be with the culture of the Monopoly box in the closet – I've got to feed them. I've got to get them to want to buy another game, because they're not the gamers that are looking forward to the next thing next week in putting in the pre-orders and all that." http://gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=84557   I really can't understand how developers / publishers think anymore. Even if THQ is right and 3rd party sell nothing on Wii, even if all Wii install base is casuals buying no games, how can you possibly OUTRIGHT INSULT the very customer group you're aiming at? It's a basic marketing / business principle!!!  Iwata called Japanese Wii owners fickle and I didn't see anyone in an uproar...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fickle

That word...it doesn't mean what you think it means...

If Tim were here he would post a scathing reply to this nonsense! Anyway I don't think that its overly negative or positive in what he wrote, it really just is. He has a perspective that none of the people here have, so shooting down his opinion isn't really going to prove or disprove anything. Since he doesn't have anything to gain and a little to lose from making statements like this, he must have some reason aside from all the hoopla to make such statements.

Clearly this is just them butthurt over Deadly Creatures. I really don't see another explanation, because that is the sum total of their "hardcore" Wii games. De Blob could count, but in this new day and age, hardcore is the hellhound, like Malstrom said. So they probably don't count it

Mr Khan said: Clearly this is just them butthurt over Deadly Creatures. I really don't see another explanation, because that is the sum total of their "hardcore" Wii games. De Blob could count, but in this new day and age, hardcore is the hellhound, like Malstrom said. So they probably don't count it

I agree. I wouldnt call Deadly Creatures a core game. Who is interested in bugs? Children. It had glitches in it to boot, which were mentioned in many reviews. Put out a dumb IP, get bad sales. Quite simple.

bardicverse said: Mr Khan said: Clearly this is just them butthurt over Deadly Creatures. I really don't see another explanation, because that is the sum total of their "hardcore" Wii games. De Blob could count, but in this new day and age, hardcore is the hellhound, like Malstrom said. So they probably don't count it I agree. I wouldnt call Deadly Creatures a core game. Who is interested in bugs? Children. It had glitches in it to boot, which were mentioned in many reviews. Put out a dumb IP, get bad sales. Quite simple.

Absolutely. I don't think I've ever witnessed an industry blame the consumer as blatantly as this industry has. They blame the Wii "demographics" the "casual gamers" Which they never really define beyond the term. (Maybe because the definition is in itself meaningless). In Hollywood, if the movie fails to succeed it ain't the audiences fault. But in gaming if a game doesn't succeed it is the consumers fault? Maybe make a compelling game, yeah? Oh, no that would be too much to ask.

axumblade said: Amazing how quickly the company that made a great game like de Blob are being referred to as crap for 1 person stating their disinterest for the Wii.

Beautiful game, that sold very well. But they didn't made it.