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Is religion/Christianity in jeapardy? This article is crazy.

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outlawauron said:
Well, I'll take this time to say that an Australian Christian band has the #1 selling album right now on iTunes. Woo!

Sounds like an interesting reason to chart the effects of religion on piracy.



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From the original article.
SAN DIEGO -- A local pastor and his wife claim they were interrogated by a San Diego County official, who then threatened them with escalating fines if they continued to hold Bible studies in their home, 10News reported.

Attorney Dean Broyles of The Western Center For Law & Policy was shocked with what happened to the pastor and his wife.

Broyles said, "The county asked, 'Do you have a regular meeting in your home?' She said, 'Yes.' 'Do you say amen?' 'Yes.' 'Do you pray?' 'Yes.' 'Do you say praise the Lord?' 'Yes.'"

Sounds like a hunt to me, against religious gatherings. Were other gatherings of 10-15 people questioned and threatened with escalating fines? I don't know. But I believe the ordinance is that the use of land for religious purposes is unlawful unless you have a permit.... Since this is a small group I wonder if they have problems with super bowl parties...



Squilliam said:
LOL, I don't even know what the U.S. constitution is aside from what I've picked up from movies... I live in New Zealand, Ha!!

A Kiwi not worshipping Sony?  Isn't New Zealand like the only country in the world where PSP userbase is larger then DS userbase?



Yeah...that sounds pretty unconstitutional.



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luinil said:
From the original article.
SAN DIEGO -- A local pastor and his wife claim they were interrogated by a San Diego County official, who then threatened them with escalating fines if they continued to hold Bible studies in their home, 10News reported.

Attorney Dean Broyles of The Western Center For Law & Policy was shocked with what happened to the pastor and his wife.

Broyles said, "The county asked, 'Do you have a regular meeting in your home?' She said, 'Yes.' 'Do you say amen?' 'Yes.' 'Do you pray?' 'Yes.' 'Do you say praise the Lord?' 'Yes.'"

Sounds like a hunt to me, against religious gatherings. Were other gatherings of 10-15 people questioned and threatened with escalating fines? I don't know. But I believe the ordinance is that the use of land for religious purposes is unlawful unless you have a permit.... Since this is a small group I wonder if they have problems with super bowl parties...

And further down:

"If the county thinks they can shut down groups of 10 or 15 Christians meeting in a home, what about people who meet regularly at home for poker night? What about people who meet for Tupperware parties? What about people who are meeting to watch baseball games on a regular basis and support the Chargers?" Broyles asked.

It's kind of amusing how 10-15 people is somehow comparable to 4-5 people.



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Kasz216 said:
Squilliam said:
LOL, I don't even know what the U.S. constitution is aside from what I've picked up from movies... I live in New Zealand, Ha!!

A Kiwi not worshipping Sony?  Isn't New Zealand like the only country in the world where PSP userbase is larger then DS userbase?

Yep. Nintendo hates this market though, so its not really at all that surprising. Funny thing is that the Xbox 360 Premium costs $223 U.S.D vs the PS3s $390 and the Wii costs $263 U.S.D.



Tease.

Words Of Wisdom said:
luinil said:
From the original article.
SAN DIEGO -- A local pastor and his wife claim they were interrogated by a San Diego County official, who then threatened them with escalating fines if they continued to hold Bible studies in their home, 10News reported.

Attorney Dean Broyles of The Western Center For Law & Policy was shocked with what happened to the pastor and his wife.

Broyles said, "The county asked, 'Do you have a regular meeting in your home?' She said, 'Yes.' 'Do you say amen?' 'Yes.' 'Do you pray?' 'Yes.' 'Do you say praise the Lord?' 'Yes.'"

Sounds like a hunt to me, against religious gatherings. Were other gatherings of 10-15 people questioned and threatened with escalating fines? I don't know. But I believe the ordinance is that the use of land for religious purposes is unlawful unless you have a permit.... Since this is a small group I wonder if they have problems with super bowl parties...

And further down:

"If the county thinks they can shut down groups of 10 or 15 Christians meeting in a home, what about people who meet regularly at home for poker night? What about people who meet for Tupperware parties? What about people who are meeting to watch baseball games on a regular basis and support the Chargers?" Broyles asked.

It's kind of amusing how 10-15 people is somehow comparable to 4-5 people.

My Poker nights usually are 10-20 people affairs....

I guess I just have a lot of friends.



Have you seen some of the Super bowl parties and poker nights? Tupperware parties easily get into the 10s of people. That is San Diego, so Charger support may be very high and gatherings of friends at homes may be common, does anyone know how many parties are over 10 people?



Would be interesting to have more background on this. The most important question I ask myself is:
Can anybody just call himself pastor in the States?

And then wouldn't this vague "thousands of dollars"-payment permit you to call you one?

Would this payment still appear if he would just be David Jones without the pastor?



Kasz216 said:

My Poker nights usually are 10-20 people affairs....

I guess I just have a lot of friends.

That's pretty insane.  Biggest one I've ever seen was only about 12 players.

20 people though?  All playing in the same game?