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I figured out why the Wii didn't stop selling after all Marioboys bought it

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What I meant to write is that, the most logical assumption to come out of this generation is that Mario, like God, is dead.

There were 60M original mario fans. Now, only 8 or 9 million people buy the games that are nintendo staples.

What I think really happened is that all the people who owned NES as children, like me, grew up and have updated tastes that have the same kind of difficulty level/depth as the original NES/SNES. So we have moved to PC or HD systems. The 8 million or so whom buy the "MARIO" games, are diehard fans. All the new fans prefer simpler games.

My point? From this point on, childhood memories will not be made of Mario, but of Wii sports or other games that children's parents decide their children should play. Nostalgia will eventually die, and mario along with it.

EDIT: for example, in exhibit A, it's not that "people buy wii for Nintendo (1st party) games", but that the same 8 million people that buy all the 1st party nintendo games.

EDIT2: on top of that, it isn't shameful to play Mario games. It's just more fun to play things that have an actual storyline. Mario is like Seinfeld without the jokes.



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theprof00 said:

What I meant to write is that, the most logical assumption to come out of this generation is that Mario, like God, is dead.

There were 60M original mario fans. Now, only 8 or 9 million people buy the games that are nintendo staples.

What I think really happened is that all the people who owned NES as children, like me, grew up and have updated tastes that have the same kind of difficulty level/depth as the original NES/SNES. So we have moved to PC or HD systems. The 8 million or so whom buy the "MARIO" games, are diehard fans. All the new fans prefer simpler games.

My point? From this point on, childhood memories will not be made of Mario, but of Wii sports or other games that children's parents decide their children should play. Nostalgia will eventually die, and mario along with it.

 

 

 So how do you explain that Mario is bigger than ever? The induvidual sales aren't as impressive, but the total sold is.

Mario has sold more than 99M (but less than 100!) copies of games this gen. That's around 50% more than what Sony and Microsoft combined has sold. Yeah, Mario is 50% bigger than all of Sony and Microsoft's IPs combined. Mario is more than 1/5th of Nintendo's total software sales as well.

 

In 3rd gen, Mario sold around 90-100M through the entire gen. 
In 4th gen, Mario sold around 80M through the entire gen.  
In 5th gen, Mario sold around 80M through the entire gen.  
In 6th gen, Mario sold around 60-70M through the entire gen. 
In 7th gen, Mario is going to sell over 150M, heck - maybe even 200M.

 

If it's the same people who buy the 175M now who bought the 60M in 6th gen, Nintendo has done a damn good job making those people buy games.



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my older brother (31) said Mario galaxy was kinda effeminate. I (28) punched him in the face and told him don't disrespect your adopted parent like that ever again.

Its true, i am a mario fan and will always be a mario fan, even when i get too old or disinterested to buy the games.

@theprof00, MARIO WILL NEVER DIE. He will be like Joseph Stalin, Hitler, Jesus, The Beatles, Mohammad or anyone else who's old, dead and famous.



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my edited post answers that question. I realized i didn't answer it.

@megaman

like I said, kids in the future will think of wii sports and Miis not Mario. Therefore the nostalgia factor for Mario will be non-existant.



theprof00 said:
people like good games. As long as good games come out, people will buy them.

Mario has always had good installments. SMG hasn't sold so well. Therefore Mii is the new Mario.

 

Fuuny you just responded. Um, i think mii's are potentially going to have SOME brand recognition but not nearly as much as one single face/character who has been seen in so many countries for so long. This excuse that he is seen in amost every Ninty game and is the reason "all" Nintendo games sell, while disproven by those very Mii titles, basically proves that HE is still capable of killing every other mascot out there.



“When we make some new announcement and if there is no positive initial reaction from the market, I try to think of it as a good sign because that can be interpreted as people reacting to something groundbreaking. ...if the employees were always minding themselves to do whatever the market is requiring at any moment, and if they were always focusing on something we can sell right now for the short term, it would be very limiting. We are trying to think outside the box.” - Satoru Iwata - This is why corporate multinationals will never truly understand, or risk doing, what Nintendo does.

This is the old Rol that I love.



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theprof00 said:

my edited post answers that question. I realized i didn't answer it.

@megaman

like I said, kids in the future will think of wii sports and Miis not Mario. Therefore the nostalgia factor for Mario will be non-existant.

 

 Why would you believe that? Mario is the icon of gaming. 5 Wii games selling a lot isn't going to change that.



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