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So wait you guys are saying Killzone 2 had no hype around it? Just how bright is that PS3 shining? Cause It's certainly turning a lot of people into blind fanboys. PS3 was commercialized HEAVILY and should have sold a lot more. Atleast when I was watching my sports programing every commericial had friggin' Killzone 2 in it, and it was all over the magazines. No they didn't have Killzone soda, or Peter Jackson vying for rights to the series but it was pretty damn heavily publicized. In Europe it got It's own bundle for gods sake!

Believe me Killzone 2 did well with critics, but it's a flop sales wise. Wii Fit is really killing the game industry isn't it?



It's just that simple.

Killzone 2 is by far my favorite online game. I just don't like halo anymore.





  

damit u stupid fanboy.. only other fanboys called it that... like seriously,... i guess u dont realize that HALO is bundled now? hm shame on u



Love it or hate it halo has better sales, better reviews and is one of the most well supported games in the world that maintains its huge fanbase despite the fact that its several years old now.

But more then anything halo is the xbox's mario I'd be very surprised if any ps3 shooter could match it in sales, if cod 4 on the 360 couldn't do that then no ps3 shooter really has a chance.

Personal preferences are only important to the individual and really aren't that relevant when talking about the impact of any particular game on the world and espescially when talking about sales which are numbers which cannot be spinned. The game either sells more or it sells less. It sold less.



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Zizzla_Rachet said:
Pristine20 said:
disolitude said:
Halo 3 is my game of this geneneration thus far. And only game this gen that goes in to my top 10 games I've ever played. Its one of the few HD console games that made sure group play and high fun factor are always present...and not really put much emphasis on things like draw distance, polygon counts in models and amazing textrures...sacrificing goodies like split screen and coop.

I have not played killzone 2 much but from what Ive seen and played, it will never have the charisma, universal appeal and sheer fun factor Halo 3 does.

Don't get me wrong, Killzone 2 is one bad ass shooter...but it is more comparable to COD4 than halo 3. There is nothing else like Halo 3 available this gen IMO...other than maybe L4D which is similarly unique in its own way.

Now as far as sales, I dont think higher selling games always represent better quality games...but in this case, I agree with this logic.

you contradict yourself mate.

As far as I'm concerned kz2>>cod4>>>>>>halo 3. This isn't fanboyism. It took me 12 months to play cod4 online for 14 days. I've already played kz2 online for 13 days. KZ2's clan system is just excellent!

As for halo 3, I tried and tried to enjoy both halo 1,2 and 3 (I have an xbox and I live in the US, you can be sure that I have access to multiple 360s) but just never got the appeal of the series.

I went back to play cod4 recently and it just didn't feel as good anymore...hopefully MW2 has an ace up its sleeve.

Frankly, a smaller community has it's benefits. Those of us who played lots of sc4 online had that kind of bond. I'm starting to see recurring PSNs in KZ2, we'll see how it plays out.

 

 

 

Omg how is that not Fanboyism...The fact that COD4 has a way bigger Fan base on the PS3 than Killzone should show how the average PS3 owner feels...I personally Like the Class system in Killzone better than the CoD4 one...But that does not make the CoD4 classes = a dung bag...And Kz2 Clan is system is the way newer one...So anything else but excellent would of been a huge draw back...

I don't understand why it took you 12 months to play Cod4 online...Pls explain?

You say you went back to play Cod4 and it did not feel as good...What lvl Rank Are you?

 

You might find the benefit in a small community..But I find lots of draw backs...One for instance is player availability...IN Cod4 you can play 8 hours straight(On Xbox) and not run out of People to Play...Where as a smaller comunity would not be beneficial for lets say someone who works late or can only play at certain times....The Few times I played Killzone 2 I had no problem getting into action....But There where a lot of Half filled rooms Or was unable to get into the Long winded Lobby becuase everyone would be clustered there(Proly clan vs Clan)...And fighting Bots is stupid....

 

 

 

 

It is not fanboyism, I used the relative time spent to show that it has nothing to do with what game came out first but rather what game I find more addicting and thus better. I bought cod4 at launch like kz2. I officially stopped playing it when kz2 came out and temporarily when soul calibur iv and reistance 2 came out. I have accumulated 14 days online in all my cod4 playtime before I finally quit in feb 2009. I use 12 monthes instead of probably 15 because of the time I switched to sc4 as my primary online game.

I was primarily a free-for-all player in cod4 so my score isn't as high as it should be because you don't get that high of a score in FFAs as opposed to S&D and Headquarters otherwise but if you go by kill rank only (which is a better ranking for FFA players), the highest rank I reached was 12000. Last time I checked, I'm down to the 50,000s. I almost always came first in FFA games I took part in before I quit.

KZ2 on the other hand has been out for only 3 months and I'm eclipsing my total cod4 online playtime already. My kz2 profile is in my sig, follow the link if you don't believe me. If that doesn't show that I'm much more into this game, what does? What has this got to do with fanboyism? You think I'd torture myself playing hours and hours of kz2 if I found it boring, just because its a ps3 exclusive?

The drawbacks depend on what kind of player you are. i tend to like becoming familiar with the people I play with and technically speaking, all you need is 32 people online at a given time since you can play with people from any region. Even in soul calibur iv where I'm also known by a couple people, the few times I go back to play it, I still find games with ease. I may be playing the same people over and over but thats actually what I like about the small community....familiarity. Almost half of my friend's list is made up of sc4 players.

You haven't played kz2 anywhere as much as me so I think I have way more leverage to comment on the online system than you. There are always tons of rooms to choose from. If you choose a room with only 10 ppl, its your choice and even those tend to fill up quick depending on the rules of the game (at my level, people seem to prefer rooms with rpgs disabled). I don't know what level you are but I'm guessing you're probably a n00b so we're finding different games when we search. Since the game sold so "poorly", perhaps thats why you have trouble finding fellow low level player to battle with.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Zizzla_Rachet said:
Pristine20 said:
disolitude said:

@Pristine20

I think I agree with you in saying that competitive aspect of halo is not really as good as COD (and I assume KZ2)...like I really dont care what my rank is or if I gain much XP. Its more about..."will I team kill this match...will I teabag enough...will I get an overkill (4 kills in 4 seconds)...will I trash talk after the match if we win...will I nail that sticky or jump with the Warthog jeep "...etc.

So if you are in to competitive gamplay and care about ranking up...Halo 3 may not be as good as COD4(or KZ2).

 

well, the clan system in kz2 is certainly very competitive. the valor system makes it that way. Most people who play kz2 also seem to care a lot about xp gained and their stats (cod4 to a much lesser extent) but that may be because everyone who bought the game is extremely hardcore while the rest sent hate mail to Guerilla complaining that the game wasn't Zone of Duty 4.

I'm pretty sure there are competitive aspects to Halo 3 as well. Don't they even have national championships for Halo? Yiou just happen to be a more casual player. With 10 million sold, there are bound to be tons of casuals.

Aslo, there is a misconception that kz2 is similar to cod4. as someone who's extensively played both, I'd be the first to tell you that they are very very different. I don't know why people think the games are similar.

Pristine20 said:
disolitude said:

you contradict yourself mate.

As far as I'm concerned kz2>>cod4>>>>>>halo 3. This isn't fanboyism. It took me 12 months to play cod4 online for 14 days. I've already played kz2 online for 13 days. KZ2's clan system is just excellent!

As for halo 3, I tried and tried to enjoy both halo 1,2 and 3 (I have an xbox and I live in the US, you can be sure that I have access to multiple 360s) but just never got the appeal of the series.

I went back to play cod4 recently and it just didn't feel as good anymore...hopefully MW2 has an ace up its sleeve.

Frankly, a smaller community has it's benefits. Those of us who played lots of sc4 online had that kind of bond. I'm starting to see recurring PSNs in KZ2, we'll see how it plays out.

 

 

 

You want People to Believe that you played the COD4 Campaign for 12 consecutive months?

Do you know how many People In COD4 restart their lvl to go tripple Prestige... or Even Higher Prestige than that?

I didn't think a gold cross justified the pain of losing my favorite weapons...the rpd and m60 but I do have a golden m60 and would have a gold cross if I did prestige but I stayed at lvl 55 especially because of the m60. Who said anything about the campaign? I'm talking about the online components here.

 



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

disolitude said:
Pristine20 said:
disolitude said:

@Pristine20

I think I agree with you in saying that competitive aspect of halo is not really as good as COD (and I assume KZ2)...like I really dont care what my rank is or if I gain much XP. Its more about..."will I team kill this match...will I teabag enough...will I get an overkill (4 kills in 4 seconds)...will I trash talk after the match if we win...will I nail that sticky or jump with the Warthog jeep "...etc.

So if you are in to competitive gamplay and care about ranking up...Halo 3 may not be as good as COD4(or KZ2).

 

well, the clan system in kz2 is certainly very competitive. the valor system makes it that way. Most people who play kz2 also seem to care a lot about xp gained and their stats (cod4 to a much lesser extent) but that may be because everyone who bought the game is extremely hardcore while the rest sent hate mail to Guerilla complaining that the game wasn't Zone of Duty 4.

I'm pretty sure there are competitive aspects to Halo 3 as well. Don't they even have national championships for Halo? Yiou just happen to be a more casual player. With 10 million sold, there are bound to be tons of casuals.

Aslo, there is a misconception that kz2 is similar to cod4. as someone who's extensively played both, I'd be the first to tell you that they are very very different. I don't know why people think the games are similar.

I wouldn't call myslef casual...lol. Despite my constant dropping and betraying I still win more than 50% of the matches. Pretty much every match I decide to play for real I tend to win.

However when you get clowns as teamates, you have more fun pissing them off than trying to play competitive.

 

 

It's all about whats fun. In my case, when my team obviously sucks, I just salvage as many kills as I can and try to maximize my pointage before the game ends



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Halowned...



was up g im so KZ2 fuck the rest