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As its been mentioned before maybe its Metal Gear Online thats going to Xbox 360 cas that would make a lot of sense. I remember kojima himself wishing MGO was more successful than it is and that the Konami ID's stopped MGO becoming a lot bigger. So maybe it's MGO being ported cas i remember Kojima had lots of plans for it but the last time i played the game not many people where online



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Kantor said:
AussieGecko said:
Kantor said:
AussieGecko said:

Um... sureeee

 

But because mgs4 is a ps33 excl its different apparently. Come on, all deals with a company have to be held, see goldeneye and , nintendo and rare did it, just because nintendo dont have rare doesnt mean the deal doesnt hold.

 

I'll admit that Gears of War is ridiculous. But EA have never stated that Mass Effect 2 is never coming to PS3. Kojima has said this. More than once. He says it like every five minutes, but nobody cares, because they are so determined that Kojima is going to spend a year working on a game for their console of choice which will not sell a quarter of the PS3 version.

 

yeah nah thats fair enough, i see your point,

having said that, like my topic before, its the same as both sides, if oone should stop be talking about then the other should

We (PS3 fans) are not objecting to you guys wanting MGS4 on 360. We are objecting to the way you state that there will be an MGS4 360 port, time and time again, even though Kojima has denied it multiple times, and you do this with the most pathetic of evidence. A twitter post from a guy named GameFork? Seriously?

Dont get me wrong, i think it would be good for xbox to have mgs, it is a quality game, i have it for my ps3, this is not the point im trying to make. If one should stop talking about one then should be talking about both. I read an interview with bioware stating that they would want the whole mass effect franchise on the 360 only, it almost sounded like a deal when they mentioned it.

Granted that is not the same as the great kojima saying it, but as others have mentioned, ninja gaiden sigma. For all intense and purposes the same damn thing. What would stop Konami doing the same thing?

The same arguments can be based for everygame. As soon as Tecmo? did that nothing is sacred, they pulled a dirtier move then sony regarding the ghostbusters launch (really bloody looking forward to this game, and especially now, no chance on getting it on ps3).

I am pretty much just over the fact that everygame has to autommatically be multiplat, the love that cliff has for the 360 and he wants to basically marry it is the same as kojima seems to be about the mgs4 franchise. I agree in that point. I personally think if MS was to second party a team, it should be epic, they seem to have a great relationship, see PS3 Konami, same basis. They work well together, this xbox excl may very well have to do with what the "new kojima game" is, it may not, E3 will hold the aces off all suits, we just have to find out who holds them out of the consoles

 



 

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AussieGecko said:
Kantor said:
AussieGecko said:
Kantor said:
AussieGecko said:

Um... sureeee

 

But because mgs4 is a ps33 excl its different apparently. Come on, all deals with a company have to be held, see goldeneye and , nintendo and rare did it, just because nintendo dont have rare doesnt mean the deal doesnt hold.

 

I'll admit that Gears of War is ridiculous. But EA have never stated that Mass Effect 2 is never coming to PS3. Kojima has said this. More than once. He says it like every five minutes, but nobody cares, because they are so determined that Kojima is going to spend a year working on a game for their console of choice which will not sell a quarter of the PS3 version.

 

yeah nah thats fair enough, i see your point,

having said that, like my topic before, its the same as both sides, if oone should stop be talking about then the other should

We (PS3 fans) are not objecting to you guys wanting MGS4 on 360. We are objecting to the way you state that there will be an MGS4 360 port, time and time again, even though Kojima has denied it multiple times, and you do this with the most pathetic of evidence. A twitter post from a guy named GameFork? Seriously?

Dont get me wrong, i think it would be good for xbox to have mgs, it is a quality game, i have it for my ps3, this is not the point im trying to make. If one should stop talking about one then should be talking about both. I read an interview with bioware stating that they would want the whole mass effect franchise on the 360 only, it almost sounded like a deal when they mentioned it.

Granted that is not the same as the great kojima saying it, but as others have mentioned, ninja gaiden sigma. For all intense and purposes the same damn thing. What would stop Konami doing the same thing?

The same arguments can be based for everygame. As soon as Tecmo? did that nothing is sacred, they pulled a dirtier move then sony regarding the ghostbusters launch (really bloody looking forward to this game, and especially now, no chance on getting it on ps3).

I am pretty much just over the fact that everygame has to autommatically be multiplat, the love that cliff has for the 360 and he wants to basically marry it is the same as kojima seems to be about the mgs4 franchise. I agree in that point. I personally think if MS was to second party a team, it should be epic, they seem to have a great relationship, see PS3 Konami, same basis. They work well together, this xbox excl may very well have to do with what the "new kojima game" is, it may not, E3 will hold the aces off all suits, we just have to find out who holds them out of the consoles

 

They would want to. They have refused to flat out deny a PS3 version. The moment they do that, I'll be happy to accept that it isn't coming. Even now, I consider it unlikely, and I'm not holding my breath for it.

As for Sigma, that was only because Itagaki was a Sony hater, and he left. They saw potential for sales, so they made a game. Ninja Gaiden II didn't exactly sell brilliantly, while MGS4 did. And I don't see Kojima leaving any time soon.

Why not get Ghostbusters on PS3? Isn't that a benefit of having two HD consoles? You're not getting it because of what Sony did? I'm sure it'll be awesome (except the environment design ). Not sure if I'll get it.

Kojima's love of Sony wouldn't blind him, though. He doesn't really care about the sales, he just wants to make the best game possible. If he can do that while making a multiplat for MGS5, he might well go ahead and do it (plus pressure from Konami). But MGS4 is never going to be on 360. It took three years to develop, some $60 million, and shipped around 4.5 million. Kojima optimised it to be on the PS3, and he's not going to go through the whole process again for en extra 10 sales.



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Kantor said:

They would want to. They have refused to flat out deny a PS3 version. The moment they do that, I'll be happy to accept that it isn't coming. Even now, I consider it unlikely, and I'm not holding my breath for it.

As for Sigma, that was only because Itagaki was a Sony hater, and he left. They saw potential for , so they made a game. Ninja Gaiden II didn't exactly sell brilliantly, while MGS4 did. And I don't see Kojima leaving any time soon.

Why not get Ghostbusters on PS3? Isn't that a benefit of having two HD consoles? You're not getting it because of what Sony did? I'm sure it'll be awesome (except the environment design ). Not sure if I'll get it.

Kojima's love of Sony wouldn't blind him, though. He doesn't really care about the sales, he just wants to make the best game possible. If he can do that while making a multiplat for MGS5, he might well go ahead and do it (plus pressure from Konami). But MGS4 is never going to be on 360. It took three years to develop, some $60 million, and shipped around 4.5 million. Kojima optimised it to be on the PS3, and he's not going to go through the whole process again for en extra 10 sales.

 

Apparently Valve's president hates Sony, made a rather loud comment about it. Might not be Valve, well Left For Dead creator, you know who it is. Half-Life is on the mind. Anyway Orange box fell to the PS3, I know this lends to the case of Left For Dead to come on PS3, but can't the same be said for MGS4 to come on the 360, well anygame anyway?

 

Sigma was just an example, if not one of the most annoying.

I am getting ghostbusters on the 360 regardless lol but still pissed, i get single play multiplats on the 360, i prefer the controller, and i dunno as it was my first (hence my love for my sega mega drive) hd console I am just used to it, multiplat multis some go to the 360 some ps3, ps3 the ones where my bro in law plays, 360 others lol.

And this is not so much for the MGS4 360 rumour, i was sure when they announced touch, that was the chance to have it happen, i am just saying the chance is there for it to happen. I just think that if Bioware made an agreement with MS then it still has to stand even though EA bought them. EA did not just by the games, they bought the positives and negatives, ALSO they bought the promises made.

If it was that simple for a company to change their mind to what they signed on the dotted line, they would just sell themselves to a company then let themselves free, because realistically what a lot of this is trying to say, they are pulling at serious strings (both side of the argument, for the 360 and PS3).

If i got a tad confusing what i am trying to say is, if Bioware in fact signed on the dotted line saying Mass Effect's games are going to be exclusive on the 360 then that is what will happen. The company that buys them must fulfill all contractual agreements. If they buy the name of the company that owns the IP's.



 

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AussieGecko said:
Kantor said:

They would want to. They have refused to flat out deny a PS3 version. The moment they do that, I'll be happy to accept that it isn't coming. Even now, I consider it unlikely, and I'm not holding my breath for it.

As for Sigma, that was only because Itagaki was a Sony hater, and he left. They saw potential for , so they made a game. Ninja Gaiden II didn't exactly sell brilliantly, while MGS4 did. And I don't see Kojima leaving any time soon.

Why not get Ghostbusters on PS3? Isn't that a benefit of having two HD consoles? You're not getting it because of what Sony did? I'm sure it'll be awesome (except the environment design ). Not sure if I'll get it.

Kojima's love of Sony wouldn't blind him, though. He doesn't really care about the sales, he just wants to make the best game possible. If he can do that while making a multiplat for MGS5, he might well go ahead and do it (plus pressure from Konami). But MGS4 is never going to be on 360. It took three years to develop, some $60 million, and shipped around 4.5 million. Kojima optimised it to be on the PS3, and he's not going to go through the whole process again for en extra 10 sales.

 

Apparently Valve's president hates Sony, made a rather loud comment about it. Might not be Valve, well Left For Dead creator, you know who it is. Half-Life is on the mind. Anyway Orange box fell to the PS3, I know this lends to the case of Left For Dead to come on PS3, but can't the same be said for MGS4 to come on the 360, well anygame anyway?

 

Sigma was just an example, if not one of the most annoying.

I am getting ghostbusters on the 360 regardless lol but still pissed, i get single play multiplats on the 360, i prefer the controller, and i dunno as it was my first (hence my love for my sega mega drive) hd console I am just used to it, multiplat multis some go to the 360 some ps3, ps3 the ones where my bro in law plays, 360 others lol.

And this is not so much for the MGS4 360 rumour, i was sure when they announced touch, that was the chance to have it happen, i am just saying the chance is there for it to happen. I just think that if Bioware made an agreement with MS then it still has to stand even though EA bought them. EA did not just by the games, they bought the positives and negatives, ALSO they bought the promises made.

If it was that simple for a company to change their mind to what they signed on the dotted line, they would just sell themselves to a company then let themselves free, because realistically what a lot of this is trying to say, they are pulling at serious strings (both side of the argument, for the 360 and PS3).

If i got a tad confusing what i am trying to say is, if Bioware in fact signed on the dotted line saying Mass Effect's games are going to be exclusive on the 360 then that is what will happen. The company that buys them must fulfill all contractual agreements. If they buy the name of the company that owns the IP's.

Valve doesn't hate Sony. They used to be small PC developers, and they grew larger. The 360's architecture is similar to that of the PC, so they develop for 360, too. PS3 development would be too costly. However, if EA are willing to do it and mess it up (Orange Box), Gabe Newell is happy for the game to go to PS3.

I don't see why you would still get Ghostbusters on 360. It's coming out first on PS3. It will likely have exclusive content on PS3. Just "because of the controller"? I honestly don't get people's hate for the DS3. I find both controllers equally usable.

And Touch...that just proves my point about how desperate 360 fans are to have this game. They bash it and bash it and bash it, then go crazy when Kojima announces a new Metal Gear. "The power button is green, like the 360!" And like every other electronic product ever made! What about the "i"? How is that related to the 360?

And certainly, if BioWare made a deal with MS, it wouldn't be on PS3. But wouldn't they have said that? Wouldn't Microsoft make them say that? If they have a deal binding Mass Effect to 360 exclusivity, what do they stand to gain from denying that there is no PS3 version? I'm thinking a late port, if anything.



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