So you think the ps3 is going  to  catch up with the 360 and pass it?

None of what you posted really addresses the point that I was making, but I'll reply anyway.

First of all, it wasn't Microsoft that hurt Sony, it was Sony's own mistakes. Mainly, it was the mistake of releasing an overengineered $600 console. Had they just yanked the Cell and the Blu-Ray and released a $300 PS3, they would have kept the majority of the PS2 exclusives no matter how much money Microsoft threw at third parties.

Furthermore, you don't win third parties over with money, you win them over by having the biggest install base. For all the money Microsoft has given, most of the third parties haven't given them the exclusive support that they were desperately seeking. They've only managed to get them to develop multi-platform. This is because the 360 simply doesn't have a large enough install base to merit exclusive third-party support.

You talk about knowing your demographic, but there's the problem. It's not just about one demographic, it's about knowing all of them, and this is something that Microsoft clearly doesn't know how to do. This is why Nintendo blew right by them in less than a year and it's also why they still haven't managed to build a decisive lead over Sony. This is also why Microsoft isn't going to win next generation, either. Like I said before, they appeal mostly to core and hardcore gamers and they are in a distant second place with a marginal lead over the PS3, so they really aren't going to have any kind of momentun that's going to get them to the top next generation.

 WTF?? Microsoft lost 5 billion on original Xbox and 1 billion on RROD and they made small profit in Q4 2008. When it comes to videogames MS is one of the un-succesfull videogame companies

What part of this is not getting through to you? Look at the sales figures for yourself. Games like Nintendogs, New Super Mario Brothers, Mario Kart DS, Pokemon Diamond & Pearl, Super Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii, Super Smash Brothers Brawl, etc. will have only sold to 10-20% of the DS and Wii userbases when it's all said and done. Granted, Sony's first party titles aren't as well-known or as popular as Nintendo's, but that's just stating the obvious, nothing more.

Again, it's not about key demographics, it's about all of them, and Microsoft just doesn't know how to appeal to all of them. If it did, then it wouldn't have let a year's lead evaporate in ten months, and it would be further ahead of the PS3. Instead, the Wii has left them far behind in the dust, and they've only expanded their lead on the PS3 by about 3 million units since the latter's launch.

If Nintendo can make games which sell to 5-15% of its userbase, than Sony struggles to sell games to more than 5% at a time.

Microsoft could have acted to cut the price at any point they wanted to, they didn't even when people were screaming at them to cut the price in 2008. As it turned out, they were right to do things as they did because they were able to not only reverse the losses to the PS3 but extend their lead over the holiday quarter. Strategically they played well that year and the lead continues to increase. By the time we move into the next holiday quarter they should have extended their lead by another 1M consoles or so and then its really down to who wants it more.

During the year Others sells 10% more than Americas on average roughly and during the holiday quarters it reverses and Americas sell 10% more than Others. So immediately Microsoft has an advantage, especially as the Arcade units become popular during that time and Sony cannot hope to touch that price point. So considering that price point becomes even more important and the balance of sales shifts to Americas during the holiday season Microsoft has an advantage over Sony automatically. If you want proof look at the 2007/2008 comparison charts for weekly numbers, Microsoft sold roughly equal to Sony and their price cut but once the holidays were over Sony took a substantial lead. Its doubtful that even if Sony cuts the price $299, so long as Microsoft makes a cut as well they can take the holiday quarters.

Well its far from over, so saying xbox 360 will remain in second place whilst being only half way through this generation is quite silly, Im not going to say it will pass or over take the xbox and I couldnt care if did, i just dont think you should make statments like that so early, like football games it can all change in the second half :)

I really doubt it. 360 is in 2nd place this gen.... not because it's such a great system... but because SONY shot themselves in the foot with such a high price tag.

I do not think that will happen again. I garauntee if Ps3 had launched at $299, 360 would be in dead last despite having a years head start.

It's Microsoft. They will probably win one eventually. There really is no way to know. I know that many people HOPE they never win a generation, but the same can be said for all competitors. Microsoft is a big 3, and they made huge strides by increasing their Xbox brand this generation. Anything is possible. Probable is where the opinions come in.

MS beat Nintendo last-gen by about what? 3 million units? And Sony crushed MS by about what? 80 million units? That's good enough for a loss to me. And this gen is far from over. So much is wrong with you're theory, but I don't have time to write a book about it.

Ouch. Any proof to this? Link/Source?