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Zuzic on 03 May 2009
theRepublic said:
Zuzic said:
ClaudeLv250 said:

Zuzic said:

People will also make up excuses for mario, saying hotel mario is not a real mario, same with the CDI zeldas. But they are. If you are to say sonic sucks now what changed, same other series, because the teams changed, why can't you for hotel mario, different team... Still mario.

 

Uh...Hotel Mario wasn't just a different team. It was a different developer entirely. This is completely different from a shift in Sonic Team, it's still Sonic Team under Sega and most teams shift new blood in and out. This is also different from Spyro or Crash's case, since they were shipped off to developers who have completely changed these franchises and have full creative control over their futures. Hotel Mario was a one time deal with Philips, a game made entirely independently from Nintendo and one that is barely a platformer to begin with. So in a thread about great Nintendo platformers, you bring up a non-Nintendo non-platform Mario game from 15 years ago that has had absolutely no impact on subsequent Mario titles. Good job!

Doesn't matter. They owned the rights, given to them by nintendo. Crash bandicoot isn't made by same developer anymore, not even same team, is it somehow absolved from the shit that it is now?

 

Mario and Sonic olympics, a lot of mario parties are shit, marios time machine, and some others.

 

Also, games not made by marios developers influenced mario more then anything. The english version of super mario bros 2 is actually a different game, called doki doki panic, and considered not canon at all at the time. Because all they did was change main sprites nothing else. Then nintendo comes and takes all these things and includes them in future mario games.

The question was "Do you think that Nintendo can keep making great platformers?"

You then named a game that was not made by Nintendo.

Claude called you out on it.

Now you are trying to claim it doesn't matter?  I call BS.  What other developers do has no bearing on the quality of Nintendo developed games.

No what happened was he never read my post, then tryed to call me out on it. He said "x is now bad" like nothing can change. Like the developers obviously stay the same the whole way through. I call OP out on how stupid that is, and a lot of nintendo mario made games were not good.

 



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Mr.Y on 03 May 2009
Zuzic said:
Mr.Y said:
Zuzic said:

Mario and Sonic olympics, a lot of mario parties are shit, marios time machine, and some others.

 

Also, games not made by marios developers influenced mario more then anything. The english version of super mario bros 2 is actually a different game, called doki doki panic, and considered not canon at all at the time. Because all they did was change main sprites nothing else. Then nintendo comes and takes all these things and includes them in future mario games.

 

 

I thought this thread was about platformers?

And Doki Doki Panic was developed by Miyamoto.

So? Still not a mario title.

 

 

 

Zuzic said:

Also, games not made by marios developers influenced mario more then anything. The english version of super mario bros 2 is actually a different game, called doki doki panic, and considered not canon at all at the time. Because all they did was change main sprites nothing else. Then nintendo comes and takes all these things and includes them in future mario games.

 


Zuzic on 03 May 2009
Mr.Y said:
Zuzic said:
Mr.Y said:
Zuzic said:

Mario and Sonic olympics, a lot of mario parties are shit, marios time machine, and some others.

 

Also, games not made by marios developers influenced mario more then anything. The english version of super mario bros 2 is actually a different game, called doki doki panic, and considered not canon at all at the time. Because all they did was change main sprites nothing else. Then nintendo comes and takes all these things and includes them in future mario games.

 

 

I thought this thread was about platformers?

And Doki Doki Panic was developed by Miyamoto.

So? Still not a mario title.

 

 

 

Zuzic said:

Also, games not made by marios developers influenced mario more then anything. The english version of super mario bros 2 is actually a different game, called doki doki panic, and considered not canon at all at the time. Because all they did was change main sprites nothing else. Then nintendo comes and takes all these things and includes them in future mario games.

 

Developers, plural. Miyamoto is not the only developer which makes mario. Same director is not the same team.

 



theRepublic on 03 May 2009

Zuzic said:

People will also make up excuses for mario, saying hotel mario is not a real mario, same with the CDI zeldas. But they are. If you are to say sonic sucks now what changed, same other series, because the teams changed, why can't you for hotel mario, different team... Still mario.

Let me put it this way:

The original question was about Nintendo's games.  You brought up something not made by Nintendo (the bolded games).  So what does that have to do with Nintendo?



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Mr.Y on 03 May 2009
Zuzic said:

Developers, plural. Miyamoto is not the only developer which makes mario. Same director is not the same team.

 

 

Why not just admit that you were wrong instead of changing the meaning of your sentence? The game was developed by Nintendo.

So yeah, Nintendo is influencing Mario. What is your point?



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megaman79 on 03 May 2009

Everyone here should buy Warioland shake it, i still need too but every fan should own it.



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CHYUII on 03 May 2009

Nintendo will always make good Platform Games. If not on the Home then for the Portable.



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Boutros on 03 May 2009

I am still hoping to see some kind of Donkey Kong platform game.



Beoulve on 03 May 2009

Nintendo will always make great platformers, fo sho



Zuzic on 03 May 2009
theRepublic said:

Zuzic said:

People will also make up excuses for mario, saying hotel mario is not a real mario, same with the CDI zeldas. But they are. If you are to say sonic sucks now what changed, same other series, because the teams changed, why can't you for hotel mario, different team... Still mario.

Let me put it this way:

The original question was about Nintendo's games.  You brought up something not made by Nintendo (the bolded games).  So what does that have to do with Nintendo?

 

No, original question had 2 meanings.

1 was asking could nintendo still innovate. No one can answer is, this requires absolute knowledge of the future.

 

The second meaning was about why series went bad when mario stayed the same. It was him asking why other series failed, and mario didn't. Problem is, all series have bad games, and it's not from the developers. Normally it's from different teams. Sonic went bad, when team changed, same with crash, same with other series. The original developers to a lot of series you hear failing are off making great games, original guy who made first sonics is making uncharted and jak games for example.