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Evocation on 01 May 2009

I always in the past believed it was due to as said, manufactures not wanting their cars being seen as smashed up and well unsafe. maybe they just don't care as much any more or forza didn't use manufactures that did care.



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theprof00 on 01 May 2009

@starcraft

When Forza came out it was not particularly known for its realism and spec driven sim style like GT was.

GT wanted to make damage accurate to the type of car and it's safety system.



Squilliam on 01 May 2009
Onyxmeth said:

Most simulation racers have to pay for the licenses to use the cars. In those paid contracts they are able to secure the ability to damage the cars. Polyphony Digital is given free licenses to use vehicles, including many manufacturers that do not want to see damages on their cars. Forza does not have licenses with those certain cars or car makers either as far as I know. Since GT is being given free licenses(because of the popularity of the series) Polyphony has no bargaining rights to get the manufacturers to agree to the damage. For GT to implement damage, they'll either need to:

1. Cut out the car manufacturers that say no.

2. Bargain them into allowing it, even if it takes money for it to happen.

With strong sales in the car market every car maker seems obsessed with (U.S.A) do you think Turn 10 has enough clout now with 4M sales to get the same kind of bargain that Polyphony does?

 



Tease.

Dark_Rulez89 on 01 May 2009

Even burnout paradise has damage



Splenda14 on 01 May 2009
Dark_Rulez89 said:
Even burnout paradise has damage

 

Burnout Paradise cars are made for the game so they have damage



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darklich13 on 01 May 2009

Wait, GT5P still has no damage? That is weak. I thought they were going to update it to have damage?



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Xxain on 01 May 2009

I always thought of the GT series as the beutiful car art i guess and damage would destroy that



Man on 01 May 2009

I think i remember hearing it was Ferarri that wouldnt allow damage in GT.

Does Forza have Ferraris in it? Does that mean they paid Ferrari extra to allow damage?



jesus kung fu magic on 01 May 2009
theprof00 said:
@starcraft

When Forza came out it was not particularly known for its realism and spec driven sim style like GT was.

GT wanted to make damage accurate to the type of car and it's safety system.

 

 You cant be realistic without damage.



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Magnific0 on 01 May 2009

^you can't be realistic without REALISTIC DAMAGE.

 

 

If Polyphony is ever going to include damage, then it has to be just as real as any other aspect of the physics engine. Forza 2 damage is not enough for the realism GT5 is striving for, if that's all they can offer/get the manufacturers to agree upon, then I'd rather have nothing. Not even Grid's damage engine is realistic enough.