Yep... I agree, Sega just DUMPING the Dreamcast wasn't great, but it was going the way of the grave before that anyway... PS2 just caught up and SMASHED it too quickly. Sega couldn't afford advertising or PR because they were too in the red, so for them to survive manufacturing hardware was not the way for them to go... i'm glad they are still alive I LOVED Sega but their game quality has certainly dropped of late. There was a time when I would consider their game quality level to be as high as Nintendo's however they pump out WAY more killer games than Nintendo does. Yep... I agree, horrible attach ratio but Nintendo makes profit off their hardware as well as software so it's only good for them. Having another piece of hardware out there that that person MAY purchase another piece of software for is always beneficial. Especially when the type of games that appeal to these type of game players is generally quite cheap and easy to produce (Brain Training is HELLA cheap to produce). Another example is Nintendog's owners which are young girls... Super Princess Peach and Kirby to some extent is perfect to transition these 'Tamagotchi' style Nintendog's adopters into their second or third piece of software. It is a sad state of affairs when the lowest reviewed versions of the games are the ones that sell the most... which will definately be the case with Tiger Woods - why the hell would someone buy this game for Xbox 360 or PS3 / PS2 if they could buy it for Wii and REALLY swing the remote... Gimmicky yes but that's what people want. YOu must remember Kwaad you read reviews from a gamers perspective... the reviews you read are done by other gamers... and thus it's hard to judge what will be popular on the market... these reviewers that review their personal oppinion towards a game gives an idea of what 5 - 10% of the market will like. Games like Bratz, Singstar, Buzz have all received pretty shonkey reviews, yet they sell very well... you can't be closed minded and think that EVERYONE thinks and likes games like a hardcore gamer... Games are for everyone and casual gamers and gamers who like less complicated games are LOVING the Wii... SOOOOO many people stopped playing games when Mario went from 2D platformer to 3D platformer because they hated the joystick and controlling in 3D. Nintendo brought them back with DS and NEW Super Mario Bros. what will bring them to Wii?? Super Paper Mario has the possibility of appealing to this group, but I think the fact it's 3D as well doesn't help, so thus I don't think it's a system seller.

I think the best consoles tend to be the ones that meet the demands of hardcore gamers, and the demands of casual gamers. At the same time though, I think there is an area in between. Casual gamers buy what, under 10 games a generation? I mean I've never met anyone who owned a console for less than 4 or 5 games. Hardcore gamers will buy a system for one game, but buy I'd say, at least 30 games a generation. Most gamers I think buy 5-10 games per generation. Then a significant number buy upto 20 games. Maybe 20% of all gamers buy over 20 games a generation. For last generation I had.. 5 DC games (Powerstone, Soul Calibur, Shenume, Sonic Adventure,Sonic Adventure 2) 25 GC games (Pikmin, Smash Brothers, Super Mario Sunshine, Viewtiful Joe 1, VJ2, Resident Evil 4, Animal Crossing, Metroid Prime, Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker, Star Fox Adventures, F-Zero GX, Soul Calibur 2, Tales of Symphonia, Mario Kart Double Dash, Ikaruga, Fire Emblem, a baseball game - forgot the name..., Killer 7, Pikmin 2, Mario Party 4, Baten Kaitos, Beyond Good & Evil, Prince of Persia, Mario Tennis) I'd love to know how many Wii gamers will buy that many games, vs. the set that will only want Wii Sports, Wii Play, sports, racing, Wii Health, Wii Music, Wii Brain Training. It could end up like the DS I think, where non-gamers grow to trust 'Touch Generation' games, while others buy FF, DQ, NSMB, Phoenix Wright. But at the same time, I think Wii and DS will benefit from games like Animal Crossing, Mario Kart, Paper Mario/New Super Mario Brothers, which combine very simple gameplay with immense appeal to both markets... If Nintendo can get at least 10 good non-games, to go with the inevitable 10 good 'game games, then Wii will be NES-like in both genre variation and hardware proliferation. I'd say they are halfway there by the end of the year - Non games - Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Music, Wii Health, Big Brain Training Game games - Mario Galaxy, Super Paper Mario, Dragon Quest Swords, Zelda, Pokemon To both markets - Madden, DDR, Guitar Hero, Excite Truck, Mario Party 8, Smash Brothers

Why my local stores have Wii's on the shelves. There was even an article who says that there are 15 times more pre orders than the Wii. We only can see I think.

So because it was on the internets in an article then that means it HAS to be true? No doubt the PS3 launch sales in UK will be fantastic... NO doubt. Wow my local store has PS3's too.

So true. But at the same time look at the best selling games of all time. They are pretty much in line with those opinions of fellow gamers. http://www.vgcharts.org/worldtotals.php As a gamer I must say I have played and enjoyed quite a large number of games on this list. So I think the perception of casual gamers not appreciating and supporting good games is really just a myth. And I was really shocked by sega's choice to pull out of the race. I really would have liked to see them in this generation doing something awesome. To me it seems as if the quality of thier games have gone down since the DC days.

If you look at that list only 7 out of the top 30 games were from last generation... and 4 of them were towards the bottom of that list. I think traditionally good games were what drove the sales, but I think things are changing... casual's don't want to go on collectathons like they did during the PS / N64 days. I agree REALLY REALLY good games sell huge numbers, the biggest games are extremely popular and they push hardware and push the popularity of a console. It's quite obvious to see that Gran Theft Auto may have single handedly driven the PS2 when it was first released. But all of these games that are releasing now adays aren't in there at all... the ones that fanboys keep driving home as this game is gonna sell my console, this game is gonna sell my console... there were so many games for GameCube that was going to boost it back up and help it catch up... it never happened, they weren't targetted broadly enough. Why isn't Okami high in that list?? That was the game of the year last year was it not?? Metal Gear Solid? Metroid Primes? Resident Evils? I think seeing Nintendogs so high up in the list is just MASSIVE I was surprised at that one seriously. I think Pokemon Diamond & Pearl has the potential to get up there as well.

March isn't that important. I will see a boost for PS3, continued through April. What is really important is this holiday season. All three will have been out for at least a year. All three will have all of their guns displayed nicely. Such as great games for all 1st/2nd parties, online content clearly shown, and maybe some price reductions for Wii and 360 (I doubt Sony could do any price reduction until mid/late 2008), and most importantly no supply shortages for any of them. That is when we will see who is clearly going to be the market leader.