What exactly do you mean by a "complex game" then? Confusing as hell? Because I like some games that are easily accessible, but with a lot of depth, like Zelda and Metroid. EDIT: Yeah, and let's refrain from the pics hehe.

Back to gaming, mature games will come I guarentee it. That was one of the whole aspects of Wii. It is supposed to reach a larger market of gaming, that is one of the reasons their making Disaster. They knew they didn't reach a wide variety of gamers last gen. I bet this time you will find games ranging from made for babies to made for cannibals. Also about the cheap shot, sorry. I kind of do that sometimes. As a matter of fact I might of made one about you in another thread. I was looking for it so I could change it, but I couldn't find it. If you do, please just disregard it. I might have not even posted it. I tend to write things, change my mind and post something different. Have a lot going on in my head. Nintendo will bank on Mario as long as he sells. Sunshine may have not been great but it sold in the millions. Just so you know, I don't like Mario solo games. Edit: Holy crap, BenKenobi is that Trigun?! Edit2: You know what I think the first cheap shot was in this thread. I was gonna start off with it(something to do with the name Big N), but changed my mind because it wasn't a good approach. This is what happens when you write a whole page, then just scrap it. Edit3: Still not sure.

Trigun game for Wii, that has to be the sanist thing you ever said. And yes Trigun would be great, probably would get a teen rating. Loved Trigun.

Geist? Metroid?

Listen everyone has had great post, we all know Nintendo has made mature games. I was not refering to mature as blood and guts, I just meant if you could make a game with Nintendo charcters that would be rated Mature how would you make it? Now, I wouldn't consider Metroid or Zelda "kidde" I don't even like that phrase, I just think it's dumb that because of the way a game looks or because it's Nintendo it's going to be kiddie. Do you think Gears of War would have sold as well if it was on the Wii with the same controller (as the 360) and the same graphics (we know that won't) no it wouldn't because it's on a Nintendo console. Now, would Gears of War sold as much with the same gameplay but the graphics were cel-shaded most likely not but it would have still been a mature title. To win big in America you need two types of games on your system, gore/ violence, and sports. Just look at the top sale in America......... LOL, I just looked for myself and it's in the top 20 all in America its: 5 gore/violence (4 in the top 5) (Halo 1 is number 9) 5 sports 10 everything else all from Nintendo (except number 18 and 20 Crash Bandicoot) what does Goldeneye count for I put with the 10. Anyway after looking at that I guess you don't "need" Violence to lead but it would help your sales. Also GTA has the number 1 and 2 spots Mario 64 is number 3. I also think it's notiable to say that the other GC game to make was a fighting game. (Smash Bros Melee)