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I don't think it will be sony's last console....sony made a big name already...they made systems from generation to generation...somehow those people or a person who pushed through the first consoles are out or is out of business, yet there are some other people who will come up with a new and better idea to create a newer or better console depending on what the generation may ask for....technologies change through generations...
| wunderfoolstrangre said: I don't think it will be sony's last console....sony made a big name already...they made systems from generation to generation...somehow those people or a person who pushed through the first consoles are out or is out of business, yet there are some other people who will come up with a new and better idea to create a newer or better console depending on what the generation may ask for....technologies change through generations... |
This...
to OP:
the situation of sony can be an analogy on square-enix's situation on FF...
Playstation became a well-known brand as well as FF
while Sakaguchi is out on the FF games...
FF still being developed and released...
so......
While Kutaragi is out of the Playstation business... I am sure that a new PS is on development
therefore PS3 will not be the last console of Sony...
look at nintendo, they garnered a very small sales lifetime, but still a Wii emerged...
we only know little my friend...
and oh... PS3 is not the last video game console of SONY it is the PS2...
PS3 is no longer called as video game console as well as 360...
they are now called Home Entertainment Console....
PLAYSTATION®2 is the yesterday.....NOW.......still......A_L_I_V_E
Consoles own:
Nintendo: Famicom(japanese NES, Family Computer), GBC, GBA, DS, Wii
Sony: PS1, PS2, PSP, PS3
Microsoft: future 360 owner
zordiark said:
look at nintendo, they garnered a very small sales lifetime, but still a Wii emerged... |
Yeah, except for the fact the the Gamecube still turned a profit on every game sold and Nintendo disrupted the game industry to get on top.
The reason I am saying the Playstation is doomed becuase it probably is. It's either going to come from Nintendo disrupting the industry or by Sony pulling out. Sony is not a game company, so they have no reason to stay if they can't turn a profit, and that is hopw it's looking.
errorrrr said:
Who makes Ape Escape, LocoRoco, and Patapon?? I thought Sony Japan Studio makes them... You don't call a "team" under a studio a different studio... TeamICO is not really a studio but a group of developer under SCEJ... it's the same with Namco Tales team... so BamCo dont make the Tales game then according to your logic??
Sony was getting their collective asses handed to them until they joined the videogame industry. The only sincere member of Sony was Kutaragi because he believed the gaming industry was profitable. Sony sales generational console (based on their format of choice) translates directly into the sales outside of the videogame industr. Did you or did you not know this? Microsoft didn't fail at publishing games. They let go alot of susidiaries during the economic downfall, which also included one of their famed titles Microsoft Flight Simulator. As for Tekken...it wasn't born and raised on Sony consoles, it was an arcade title before it hit the PSone. The console version of the game might have been exclusive to Sony consoles, but it is more an arcade game than anything. Take Tekken 6 for example, for it has been out for two years straight in the arcades. The loyalty of the Tekken franchise no longer belongs to Sony, for Namco wants profit. You don't have to be a Sony fanboy to love Tekken....you just have to love Tekken. I wont kiss Sony's ass about Tekken if they didn't make it...and they've made nothing but their systems. Second of all, I don't hate Sony. I just hate when fanboys actually believe they are true gaming companies. Sony uses the gaming industry as a way to bolster format sales, and Microsoft is afraid of the console gaming taking profit away from the PC industry. The only true gaming company is Nintendo. I can accept the truth, even though I am PS360. If you can accept the truth, you wont be blinded. I love my PS3 and my 360, but I refuse to go through Microsoft or Sony if anything happens, because I don't respect them. I deal with the middlemen (Best Buy, PlayNTrade, Gamestop) and only purchase systems with the games I like. I have a detatched relationship with makers of the products I buy. Your definition of a gaming company is so exclusive... How can Nintendo be a gaming company anymore now that they have CAMERAs on DS where you dont even use it for games... web browser for a handheld wtf??? that's nothing related to games... yea sure... Gaming company is an irrelevant term in this discussion. If Nintendo is bleeding out of the ass in the stuff they make (which turns out to be only game related), think they won't just file for bankruptcy? The difference between Nintendo, and Sony and Microsoft is that once Nintendo pulls their plug on game, they have nothing left where as Sony and Microsoft have other stuff. Unlike Sega, Nintendo don't have make pachinko machines (japanese styled pinball machine), so they are really left with nothing... if you argue other wise, nintendo is not a 'gaming' company then by your very own skewed point of view. I think some of you guys think that Sony or Microsoft actively don't care about their crap... It might be true, but seriously, within any human being, I can't seriously think any one in their right mind would actively try to make something crap... Sure, they can make something bad, but I doubt they really is out there to make something bad. Whether Sony is a gaming company or not (which I think the term itself is irrelevant), what's wrong with Sony staying in the business?
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Sony made none of those games you mention. They were made under their name by buying devs just like MS. Sony wont be in the business forever, but I don't believe this is their last gen. I believe they will forfeit the gaming industry after they fail at making profit off of new formats that they introduce, once digital downloads become popularized. If they fail to make profit outside of the gaming industry. The videogame industry is a safezone so they can push their format sales through the roof as opposed to their competitors such as Panasonic and Samsung who have Sony's number.
They are pretty stupid if they decide to make that decision. It just wouldn't make sense to throw away a brand name that has made you so much money. Ah well, if they do, I follow their games.
zordiark said:
This... to OP: the situation of sony can be an analogy on square-enix's situation on FF... Playstation became a well-known brand as well as FF while Sakaguchi is out on the FF games... FF still being developed and released... so...... While Kutaragi is out of the Playstation business... I am sure that a new PS is on development therefore PS3 will not be the last console of Sony... look at nintendo, they garnered a very small sales lifetime, but still a Wii emerged... we only know little my friend... and oh... PS3 is not the last video game console of SONY it is the PS2... PS3 is no longer called as video game console as well as 360... they are now called Home Entertainment Console.... |
This is the big problem with Sony and Microsoft, videogames consoles are not home entertainment consoles. They should be videogame consoles. Why cant Sony just leave their dvd format battle outside of the console war? Not every videogame fan wants to be forced to buy a format he already has stand alone in his house because Sony can't beat their competition by themselves.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
This is the big problem with Sony and Microsoft, videogames consoles are not home entertainment consoles. They should be videogame consoles. Why cant Sony just leave their dvd format battle outside of the console war? Not every videogame fan wants to be forced to buy a format he already has stand alone in his house because Sony can't beat their competition by themselves. |
Agreed
| AdventWolf said: No chance, the PS3 still has a long life though. A lot of momentum can come their way in the next couple of years if they continue to develop more good games. The Playstation name is huge! |
I didn't technically mean Sony, I meant the PS3 game database as a whole.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
This is the big problem with Sony and Microsoft, videogames consoles are not home entertainment consoles. They should be videogame consoles. Why cant Sony just leave their dvd format battle outside of the console war? Not every videogame fan wants to be forced to buy a format he already has stand alone in his house because Sony can't beat their competition by themselves. |
The bolded part is actually something I agree with you on! Could be because I always own most tech standalone and don't need it but it is also partly because it causes higher prices and is mostly half assed in execution (allthough I hear the Blu Ray player on the PS3 is actually quite good). I don't see the choice to go with DVD's on PS2 and X-box as poor though; it is a superior format for audiovisual and visual output in every way and greatly helped potential quality of games back then.
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