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Gamerace on 23 April 2009
bardicverse said:
Gamerace said:
bardicverse said:
Gamerace, never say "casualized Zelda" again. My spleen ruptured in disgust.

Good read, and true. There isn't much that captures the Japan market regarding WM+ beyond Wii Sports Resort. Of course, the 2nd half of Wii releases is yet to be announced. Perhaps there's something in the cards yet?

As for the West and the core market, remember that The Conduit is slated to use WM+ as well. It might be the core game that brings WM+ to use in a non-casual setting.

LMAO- Sorry about your spleen!  I'm amazed you are the first to complain though.

The Conduit is not using WM+, HVS dropped it when they realized it really added nothing to the gameplay (guess they didn't want to go back and add a lightsaber - fools!).  So currently, it's only Red Steel 2 announced for core gamers.

But I'm sure Nintendo will be dropping some WM+ surprises come E3 so I'm looking forward to it.

 

Oh, HVS dropping WM+ is news to me. I guess in a way it makes sense, if its strictly range weapons/guns. Keeps the idea fresh for 1:1 melee weapons for our FPS, should it ever find its way to the Wii.

As for the others not protesting your zelda suggestion, maybe they don't love Link the series the way I do.

 

 

 You do realize Red Steel features a lot of Katana action interspaced with FPS don't you?   It's coming soon enough.



 

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bardicverse on 23 April 2009
Gamerace said:
bardicverse said:
Gamerace said:
bardicverse said:
Gamerace, never say "casualized Zelda" again. My spleen ruptured in disgust.

Good read, and true. There isn't much that captures the Japan market regarding WM+ beyond Wii Sports Resort. Of course, the 2nd half of Wii releases is yet to be announced. Perhaps there's something in the cards yet?

As for the West and the core market, remember that The Conduit is slated to use WM+ as well. It might be the core game that brings WM+ to use in a non-casual setting.

LMAO- Sorry about your spleen!  I'm amazed you are the first to complain though.

The Conduit is not using WM+, HVS dropped it when they realized it really added nothing to the gameplay (guess they didn't want to go back and add a lightsaber - fools!).  So currently, it's only Red Steel 2 announced for core gamers.

But I'm sure Nintendo will be dropping some WM+ surprises come E3 so I'm looking forward to it.

 

Oh, HVS dropping WM+ is news to me. I guess in a way it makes sense, if its strictly range weapons/guns. Keeps the idea fresh for 1:1 melee weapons for our FPS, should it ever find its way to the Wii.

As for the others not protesting your zelda suggestion, maybe they don't love Link the series the way I do.

 

 

 You do realize Red Steel features a lot of Katana action interspaced with FPS don't you?   It's coming soon enough.

Its Red Steel. I hold no hope for it. ;) I think the bad reputation the original got might keep people alway from the sequel. I could be wrong though. =)

 



yuexxx on 23 April 2009

I think that is late for the wii.
After this E3 ( i´m sure this e3 conference be worse than last year)all the core gamers go out of wii and this be the end of a history)
i was and idiot that think that is wii is only 2xgamecube at least the games will be as resident 4

Sure that 2 of june i burn my f5 key but then i sold my wii......



Gamerace on 23 April 2009

@ bardiverse - While Red Steel didn't live up to expectations it was a fun game and I find people who owned the original enjoyed it and are looking forward to the sequel. Besides, it'll be the first to use WM+ in real sword-fighting and it's been in development for 3 years now. It ought to be great.



 

bardicverse on 23 April 2009
Gamerace said:
@ bardiverse - While Red Steel didn't live up to expectations it was a fun game and I find people who owned the original enjoyed it and are looking forward to the sequel. Besides, it'll be the first to use WM+ in real sword-fighting and it's been in development for 3 years now. It ought to be great.

 

Lets hope so!



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woopah on 23 April 2009

it needs those big frnachises to attract core japaneese gamers. monster hunte rwill start ths trend, and the rets will follow



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Arius Dion on 23 April 2009
68soul said:

It's not too late... plus, many japanese gamers LOVE golf, so the best golf simulation ever created so far could be a BIG hit, even if it's "realistic" and not made by a japanese company using cute characters...

For me, WM+ is like a Wii 1.5: it's not a brand new system, but it's an update that will make HUGE impression and will find HUGE success, just like Wii two years ago and Wii Fit one year ago...

Anyway, i don't care about that kind of negativity: i remember what most people said about Nintendo before (and even after) DS and Wii came out, and they were always so wrong it's not even funny anymore, and certainly not important at all...

 

 Good post Gamerace, you make a good argument, but I'm inclined to lean more along the lines of what Soul68 has written.



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Phoenix_34 on 23 April 2009

nice read, i do agree that WM+ should have came out a year ago. Even i've lost interest. Release that thing already.



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polezo on 23 April 2009
Gamerace said:
@ bardiverse - While Red Steel didn't live up to expectations it was a fun game and I find people who owned the original enjoyed it and are looking forward to the sequel. Besides, it'll be the first to use WM+ in real sword-fighting and it's been in development for 3 years now. It ought to be great.

 

 Actually, the one Ubisoft was originally developing 3 years ago was completely scrapped, and they started from the beginning again a year and a half ago... It was even switched from Ubisoft Montreuil to Ubisoft Paris in the change.

http://kotaku.com/5165309/the-red-steel-2-that-never-was



Gamerace on 23 April 2009
polezo said:
Gamerace said:
@ bardiverse - While Red Steel didn't live up to expectations it was a fun game and I find people who owned the original enjoyed it and are looking forward to the sequel. Besides, it'll be the first to use WM+ in real sword-fighting and it's been in development for 3 years now. It ought to be great.

 

 Actually, the one Ubisoft was originally developing 3 years ago was completely scrapped, and they started from the beginning again a year and a half ago... It was even switched from Ubisoft Montreuil to Ubisoft Paris in the change.

http://kotaku.com/5165309/the-red-steel-2-that-never-was

I knew they switched studios due to quality concerns I didn't know that they totally mothballed everything that had been developed so far though.    Looks like Montreuil went with a totally bizarre direction there.   Still, 2 yrs in development is enough time for a top notch Wii game.