Agreed, the rest I didn't read though. Sorry.

Yes, who needs attention span when you have pot?

You think I smoke pot because I'm Dutch? Well aren't we a stereotypical little American.

Your posts don't interest me, because you and your beliefs don't interest me. So dont expect me to read your walls of text k? thx.

Its a shame that some people in the U.S. (especially in the South) are so narrow-minded and bigoted. It would really do them well to visit other parts of the world and see that there are different people from them. Thankfully, the rest of the U.S. is changing and these bigots are now in the minority. Hopefully one day, they will know what it is like to be discriminated against.

Hey, if the dutch can say shit, americans sure as hell can. In fact, you could say we might be more entitled to it. What have the dutch ever done anyway? Waffles? Eggos?

EDIT: This is similar to a "yo mamma" kind of thing

I LOVE this thread!!!

1) damkira

Its a shame that some people in the U.S. (especially in the South) are so narrow-minded and bigoted. It would really do them well to visit other parts of the world and see that there are different people from them. Thankfully, the rest of the U.S. is changing and these bigots are now in the minority. Hopefully one day, they will know what it is like to be discriminated against.

First of all, I live in New York (the NORTH). Stop your foolish sectionalism. People like you tear our Nation apart. And secondly, I am a bigot because I disagree with gay marriage? I am narrow-minded because I don't accept whatever the hell you do? Is that what you are really saying? Because if it is, it only makes me love my position (and hate yours) all the more. Discrimination is my life. I am black. I KNOW discrimination. I live and breathe it, and it will be with me until the day I day because of it. Don't even dare talking to me about discrimination. I may just seem like another guy posting in the web, but I am Human. Don't try to act like I can't feel, like gay people are 'special'. They're not.

2) lolita

I don't understand why people are so against it. It's not hurting your rights at all and it won't make straight marriage any less special. It's allowed here and it didn't hurt straight marriage, it doesn't make it less special... Seriously, people are so ignorant! They need to check out places where it's allowed. They need to open their eyes and see that it doesn't hurt them in any way.

That's the thing. There is no gay marriage and straight marriage. That is some stupid division made up by people to validate themselves as being 'devoid' of rights. There is only marriage, as it originally was. Gay marriage degrades what marriage is. It's not about man and woman being the core foundation for a family. It's about sex. Love is what binds people together, yes. But marriage is not about love. Marriage is about creating a Family. That, like all the oldest laws and traditions of Mankind and the Universe would be erroneous to change. Marriage is a fundamental principle. It's sacred. And while i may pass of homosexuality, many people will not accept destroying marriage.

See evolving, changing your views and such are essencial to humanity. If some people didn't think differently and if nothing would have changed, we would still be ignorant and primitive. Things like equal rights for women and people of other races wouldn't have happened.

Marriage, just like anything else, evolves as well. It's considered to be a bond of two people who love each other here. Everyone should have this right.

Exactly the problem. People can't love each other without being married? If a father loves his child, should they get married? If a guy loves his friend, should they get married? If an aunt loves her coworker, should they get married? No. They are considered to each other 'like family' because that's how families branch off. But Marriage isn't about extending families. Marriage is about creating new ones. Because a man would leave his family to join with a woman, and become one. And together they will create a new family, in unity, something both physical and spiritual.

And saying gay people, in places where they're not allowed to marry each other, have the same right as straights is just a stupid thing. Sure you both have the right to marry the opposite gender, but the thing gay people are fighting for is the right to marry the person dear to their hearts, the person they love. Taking this away from them, without any logical reason except for "I don't like it, it's like this since millenia or it's not what I believe in" is just horrible.

This just proves where this problem comes from. People have no Idea what marriage is. So they mutilate it like they do everything else. Like Santa Clause on Christmas. It's just wrong and degrading, and it's based off of lies.

3) nojustno

Seeing how you actually agree with the extreme views of Serapheart , I dont really give a fuck what your point is.

LMAO You'd both be total outcasts in my country. But hey, your views are your views.

My views aren't extreme. Yours are. You are the ones trying to mutilate things. My view has been from the very beginning of humanity. You're radical. You're extreme. You're acting 'liberal'. You are the 'crazy' one. And to the very day I die I will recite to the whole world if need be the very principles established to maintain order since the beginning of civilization. And I guess you'll be there to try and destroy all that...

4)Stragetyking92

I agree entirely. Although I would like to believe all liberals aren't like this..

Of course not. Some liberals know where boundaries lie. I'm liberal in many ways, but not in all it's senses. In truth I hate the terms liberal and conservatives. They're the things that only divide the Nation. I don't believe anyone person is truly liberal or truly conservative. What I do believe is that in order for our American Nation to succeed, in order to create a "more perfect union" some things have to change, and somethings must always be remembered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_inventions_and_discoveries

They invented compact discs and submarines and they discovered sperm cells and the rings of Saturn.  And a bunch of other awesome and important stuff.  They also had the first multinational company and the first modern stock exchange and really helped jumpstart capitalism a few centuries ago.  It took me a few clicks on Google and Wiki to learn about their contributions to science and history, but I guess insulting them would have saved me a few seconds and been more fun.

@nojustno, is this really the first question on Dutch driving tests?  I'm dying to know.

... But did they invent Waffles. Yes or no.

I have no idea.  I'm totally gonna fail this test.

I wasn't going to comment as noone has said anything new since I left this thread.

But after all your hypocritical and intolerant attempts to label people who disagree with you as bigots, and frame the debate with ridiculous unrelated things such as the race debate and obscure references to homophobia perpetrated by random assholes, I just found the bolded phrase absolutely hilariously ironic.