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madskillz on 19 April 2009
neerdowell said:

Why? Besides those of you who only have a 360, this makes no sense to me. I see no clear advantage in doing so; I could see this on some games where the ps3 version was technically inferior as is the case sometimes, but in all likelyhood, since XIII has been in development for 5+ years on the ps3 and will supposedly be ported in only a year to the 360 I don't think this will be the case. Now, I'm not saying that the 360 version will be inferior; that remains to be seen. What I am saying is that in the best case scenario, there is no advantage to owning the 360 version over the ps3. In fact, even though the advantages would be small, the advantage still lies with the ps3:

1 blu-ray disc
ps3 has better audio
versus still exclusive (though likely not unfortunately)
ps3 lead development (that is going to be an awfully big game to port in such a small amount of time and get everything sound, especially if you're dividing your staff among the localization as well)

I own a PS3, like the 360 control scheme and don't mind disc swapping. Audio? Meh, because I don't have a system with HDMI audio - and yeah, my 360 does play audio via HDMI - and most of my peeps are on LIVE, so why would I buy the superior version of FFXIII for the PS3?

 



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superryo on 19 April 2009

Cause I only have a 360. Secondly the disc swapping - was that a problem when it was on the PS2 and you had to swap discs? No. Would I be swapping discs every few minutes? No. I have a full list of friends on xbox and I just like the fact I can be in party mode and chat with them while playing even offline games.

I am sure the PS3 version will be nice as well but there is nothing that indicates it will be so much better that I have to buy a PS3 for.



Akvod on 19 April 2009
superryo said:
Cause I only have a 360. Secondly the disc swapping - was that a problem when it was on the PS2 and you had to swap discs? No. Would I be swapping discs every few minutes? No. I have a full list of friends on xbox and I just like the fact I can be in party mode and chat with them while playing even offline games.

I am sure the PS3 version will be nice as well but there is nothing that indicates it will be so much better that I have to buy a PS3 for.

I don't remember disk swapping on PS2...

 



benmanu on 19 April 2009

"since XIII has been in development for 5+ years on the ps3 and will supposedly be ported in only a year to the 360"

except the fact that the 5+ years to develop ff13 on ps3 were actually used to invent the white engine and make it multiplatform via crystal tool renaming and other things, plus to actually create every part of the game, from scenario to design, etc... things the 360 version will already have from the start of the development, you can't really think that making the actual game on ps3 took 5 years, can you?

besides, in the five years, you can count 2 years in which the game was originally designed for ps2, before ff12 was postponed one last time, so...  ff13, they developed it on ps2 with ff12 engine, then they ported it on ps3, making the white engine and then transformed it into crystal tool to make it multiplatform (see, the engine that runs ff13 on ps3 is actually able to run... on xbox360, pc and wii, so the 360 port, they have it done almost entirely just by finishing the ps3 version).

so, what's your point? the game will be on multiple discs so there is no point buying it on 360?  please, tell me how many hours a disc on an old ff makes to be completed? see that your point is nonsense?

oh we will have to swap discs every 15 hours, perhaps it will kill us...

by the way, i once owned both the ps3 and 360, right now i only have 360 cause my ps3 broke apart out of warranty, while my 360 broke apart... in warranty, and i don't see your point, the ps3 and 360 are equal, perfectly equal, there is noone else except fanboys that say the contrary.

And to finish, i let you know one thing : it is common knowledge that porting from ps3 to 360 is a lot easier than the other way around, it is a lot easier to make a 360 version equal to the ps3 version by port it from ps3 than making a ps3 game equal to a 360 game when it was developed on 360. Of course, if you think about "a year and a half late" version to tell me i'm wrong, i can tell you squareenix himself told everyone that both versions will be released at the same time and will be equal.  If squareenix says it, who are you to dare say the contrary, squareenix's secret big boss that even squareenix don't know about? 



Serious_frusting on 20 April 2009

^^ the very popular my ps3, 360 propaganda story yada yada yada with no evidence to back it up.

priceless



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Honkeytonk Monkey on 20 April 2009
The said:
I thought this thread was asking people who own BOTH systems anyway...I clearly don't see a very good reason for someone who owns BOTH consoles to buy the 360 version. Unless they want to share it with friends/family perhaps? I'm just clueless about that, and it seems to me all the people in THIS THREAD in favor for the 360 version only own a 360, I think many people in favor of the PS3 version only own a PS3 too, which makes it all pretty pointless either way...

 

 You've gotten a ton of reasons from many people who own both, you just seem to want to only have people agree with you.

Right now everything regarding differences between the games is all assumption. As far as we know they will be 100% identical, or maybe the PS3 version will follow the multiplat trend and look slightly worse/ be slightly buggier, maybe the game will be made of rainbows and moonbeams, maybe I can fart flowers. Nobody knows yet (except that last part, that's a gift)

7.1 is the only real difference in the games and I don't have 7.1

 



Zizzla_Rachet on 20 April 2009

OMG...This topic wont end....
Look It was Earth Shattering when SquareSoft Dumped Nintendo's home Console... It was Earth Shattering when FFXI Came to Xbox and it's been irritating Sony fans that there is So much SquareEnix content on 360 and of course FFXIII coming to 360 was the grand slight to Sony only fans...

the fact is that unless Xbox 360 does not sell a single Console in america from now till the time FFXIII comes out and PS3 manages to catch up or surpass the current lead then it's is kinda likely that FFXIII will do better on the Xbox360 then the PS3 when it come to American sales...though vice versa is also highly possible.... but taking american Multi Platform sales into consideration...Well Bleak indeed......that you would recommend that ppl with both system get the Ps3 is pointless and like many had said besides audio i also doubt there will be a difference...
Oh and as to the Multi disc scenario... while the game was streaming from justin tv some genius said "Good luck 360 people changing Disc Every five seconds"
What would be new to square in requiring Multi Disc? Multi Disc will not deter from the game experience in the slightest and you certainly would not need to change them backwards..
It seems like VsXII has become the becon for my system is better than yours remarks.....


@Akvod

The graphics aren't as impressive as it was a few years ago. And they don't give us any information on the gameplay, and recycle the same movies over and over. All the while they leach off the popularity of VII and try to sell as much VII merchandise. For those who are doubting a VII remake, look at their track record. They have no integrity left to stop them from milking the game one last time.

I disagree...I don't think anything is pushing that much at the moment in terms of everything...Which is why MS need to have the tittle and most definitely paid for it



 



Zizzla_Rachet on 20 April 2009
The said:
I thought this thread was asking people who own BOTH systems anyway...I clearly don't see a very good reason for someone who owns BOTH consoles to buy the 360 version. Unless they want to share it with friends/family perhaps? I'm just clueless about that, and it seems to me all the people in THIS THREAD in favor for the 360 version only own a 360, I think many people in favor of the PS3 version only own a PS3 too, which makes it all pretty pointless either way...

 

No It says For those of you Buying FFXIII on the 360 under the Microsoft Discussion...If you really Don't think Champions Online is gonna be massive with sales then don't read about it... I think It's gonna be huge!...Wait...My bad I lost what I was talking about....



 



daroamer on 20 April 2009
BTFeather55 said:

I just don't see how the 360 version can be the same.

Why? Because in an interview with Itagaki from 2005 that I've pointed out on this site before, he says his team was really knocked out when they discovered the 360 was going to be using dvd as its main disc type (Itakagi thought that it was going to be using HD-DVDs). He further said in this interview that he wanted the bigger disc space because it would let him put more cutscenes that would appeal to Japanese gamers in his games and he said that to put even the two minute High-Definition trailer for DoA 4 from E3 on the 360's dvds in a quality that was acceptable to him that that would take 2 gigs of the discs 9 gig space leaving him far less room than he considered adequate for other parts of the game.

Now, presuming that what Itagaki thinks is a suitable quality for high definition cinemas is roughly the same thing as what Square thinks it is, then you probably have 45 to 60 minutes of hd cinemas in Final Fantasy XIII which according to Itagaki's standards would make the cinemas in FFXIII have to be around 50 gig in size. Let's say the rest of the game only takes up about 10 gigs of space, then you have FFXIII taking up 60 gigs of disc space and close to seven dvd 9s to be at the same quality

So, I really don't know how the two games can be anywhere near identical when you take into consideration what Itagaki said would be the required space to get his two minute cinema at the quality that he wanted it to be in on a dvd 9 when there will probably be 50 minutes of cinema in FFXIII.

http://www.videogamer.com/news/team_ninja_chief_concerned_by_xbox_360_dvd_media_capacity.html

EDIT:  Although I do think I see a way around this.  It could be that the plan is for gamers to use the 360's hard drive feature that was into the new xbox dashboard where you can save games off of the disc to your 360's hard drive to compensate for the dvd's lack of space, but do you really want to be taking up 45 to 60 gigs of space on the 360's hard drive to play FFXIII? 

(Bolded section) What a load of crap.  Simple math will tell you that.  Even if you used a constant video bit rate of 48 Mb/s (which is max on Blu-ray) along with 24/96 audio a 2 min video would only take up about 700 megs of space.  And that is COMPLETE overkill.  I have excellent looking Blu-rays and HD DVDs that only use about 12 Mb/s encoding and have seen great hi def at only around 8 megs which would give you a file size of around 140 megs for a 2 min HD video that can run off of DVD.