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Firstly, I don't think Halo is going to sell as well as some people think. Sure, it'll sell alot on the first day, and be the 360's best selling game, but when you compare it to Halo 2 the truth is it shouldn't get anywhere near the 8 million that did.

Halo 2 had a userbase of 25 million users, on a console which reatailed at $150, with very little competition. Whereas Halo 3 is on a console with half as many owners, retailing at $350 and a whole host of rival FPS's and games in other genres.

On the other hand, Smash Bro's looks set to be in a much better position to increase it's sales from the previous version. The userbase is growing rapidly and will exceed GameCube's total before the end of 2008 I think that alone should help carry it. We can't yet tell if Nintendo will push Smash Bro's as much as they should through advertising though, but the website looks like it's a probable situation.

So I'm with the majority, Halo 3 initually but Smash Bro's will sell better over it's life time.



I liked Halo, only because of the fact that you don't need to give a damn about ammo conservation because there is a new gun off of every enemy that you kill. Beyond that, the levels were repedetive, its like they copied and pasted every level from the previous one and then dressed it up with a different background.

I am not gonna pretend to know which one of them will sell better, but I will say that I GUARANTEE YOU that Brawl will make ALOT more money than Halo 3.



DarkD: I dont know about the money making thing... I know Brawl will be cheaper to produce, but halo will retail for 10 dollars more. if they both ended selling the same (7 million+) that would be an extra 70 million dollars for Halo3 which would easily cover the development and marketing costs.



i'm gonna throw in super mario galaxy too cuz thats gonna sell like crazy too. both games along with super mario galaxy are gonna sell millions and millions. i wouldn't be surprised to see them all over 10 million worldwide at the end of each system's lifespan. launch week halo 3 will outsell them, maybe like 3 million? while i see ssbb and smg selling more like 500-800 the first week. i say halo 3 might be up around 5 million by the end of the year while ssbb and smg are both around 2 million. next year though the mario games will be catching up and possibly by end of '08 halo 3 around 8 million, ssbb 6-7million, smg 6-7million. in the end i could see halo 3 at 10-12 million, smg 12-14 million, ssbb 13 - 15 billion. then again i also wouldn't be surprised if by the time wii gets up to about 80 or 90 million consoles sold to see both games close to 20 million. i can't wait to get all 3 this fall!



end of '08 predictions: wii - 43 million,  360 - 25 million, ps3 - 20 million

 

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jammy2211 said:
Firstly, I don't think Halo is going to sell as well as some people think. Sure, it'll sell alot on the first day, and be the 360's best selling game, but when you compare it to Halo 2 the truth is it shouldn't get anywhere near the 8 million that did.

Halo 2 had a userbase of 25 million users, on a console which reatailed at $150, with very little competition. Whereas Halo 3 is on a console with half as many owners, retailing at $350 and a whole host of rival FPS's and games in other genres.

On the other hand, Smash Bro's looks set to be in a much better position to increase it's sales from the previous version. The userbase is growing rapidly and will exceed GameCube's total before the end of 2008 I think that alone should help carry it. We can't yet tell if Nintendo will push Smash Bro's as much as they should through advertising though, but the website looks like it's a probable situation.

So I'm with the majority, Halo 3 initually but Smash Bro's will sell better over it's life time.

.....Are you kidding me? Halo 2 came out in 2004. The current amount of Xbox owners, as of right now, is only 24 million. Even with rounding, how could the Xbox have had the same amount of users 3 years ago?

How?

It didn't.

 



 

 

leo-j said:
Brawl wont get too close to halo 3's lifetime sales that I garuntee.

Again Leo-j, what is the rationale for your answer. I personally think that halo will sell more, but on the face of things, Brawl will be close. I think this is more wishful thinking on your part. You also seem to neglect Japan and previoius sales figures!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think in the short term both these games, pose a major problem for the PS3, but we will have to wait until after MGS4 and FF are out until PS3 can finally have a chance of fighting against 360 and Wii in any real terms. But i really think it is in sonys best interest that these games come sooner rather than later. It will be interesting if the PS3 can turn the negative publicity and poor sales around, and stand up and fight and take away the buzz and hype that both the 360 and wii are getting.

I also think that the real opposition to the PS3, as far as i can tell the wii sales go up and down, fairly independently of either the other two consoles. I think time will show that this may not be the case with the 360 and the PS3.

Is wii a fad? I don't know, but people really seem to like it, and it is selling quite amazingly and will do so over the christmas. ( i have a wii by the way and hope to get a 360 or a PS3 within the next year).



wemysst2 said:
leo-j said:
Brawl wont get too close to halo 3's lifetime sales that I garuntee.

Again Leo-j, what is the rationale for your answer.


 What's the rationale for anyone's answer?  You do know we're all guessing here right?  We all can come up with the same numbers saying different things all day but in the end it's all guess work.  Let him have his funny little fantasy.



MontanaHatchet said:
jammy2211 said:
Firstly, I don't think Halo is going to sell as well as some people think. Sure, it'll sell alot on the first day, and be the 360's best selling game, but when you compare it to Halo 2 the truth is it shouldn't get anywhere near the 8 million that did.

Halo 2 had a userbase of 25 million users, on a console which reatailed at $150, with very little competition. Whereas Halo 3 is on a console with half as many owners, retailing at $350 and a whole host of rival FPS's and games in other genres.

On the other hand, Smash Bro's looks set to be in a much better position to increase it's sales from the previous version. The userbase is growing rapidly and will exceed GameCube's total before the end of 2008 I think that alone should help carry it. We can't yet tell if Nintendo will push Smash Bro's as much as they should through advertising though, but the website looks like it's a probable situation.

So I'm with the majority, Halo 3 initually but Smash Bro's will sell better over it's life time.

.....Are you kidding me? Halo 2 came out in 2004. The current amount of Xbox owners, as of right now, is only 24 million. Even with rounding, how could the Xbox have had the same amount of users 3 years ago?

How?

It didn't.

 


  When Halo 2 launched Xbox had 18 million users, that's still 7 milion more. Not to mention the amount of sales Halo 2 triggered, which won't be as substantial for the 360 due to the $200 extra price tag.

   I just don't see how Halo 3 is going to outsell Halo 2, it's lost on me.



MontanaHatchet said:
jammy2211 said:
Firstly, I don't think Halo is going to sell as well as some people think. Sure, it'll sell alot on the first day, and be the 360's best selling game, but when you compare it to Halo 2 the truth is it shouldn't get anywhere near the 8 million that did.

Halo 2 had a userbase of 25 million users, on a console which reatailed at $150, with very little competition. Whereas Halo 3 is on a console with half as many owners, retailing at $350 and a whole host of rival FPS's and games in other genres.

On the other hand, Smash Bro's looks set to be in a much better position to increase it's sales from the previous version. The userbase is growing rapidly and will exceed GameCube's total before the end of 2008 I think that alone should help carry it. We can't yet tell if Nintendo will push Smash Bro's as much as they should through advertising though, but the website looks like it's a probable situation.

So I'm with the majority, Halo 3 initually but Smash Bro's will sell better over it's life time.

.....Are you kidding me? Halo 2 came out in 2004. The current amount of Xbox owners, as of right now, is only 24 million. Even with rounding, how could the Xbox have had the same amount of users 3 years ago?

How?

It didn't.

 


No, you are right, it had a few million less.

But you are ignoring the best post in this thread in response to your poorly-reasoned argument, the very detailed one by nazatips including all relevant numbers.  Do you care to respond at all, or has he blown so huge a hole in your viewpoint that there's nothing left to defend? 



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