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This thread brings up the major issue with downloadable content that drives me crazy. Compression sucks. The bandwidth required to download uncompressed files is not readily available. Until the next big revolution in internet connectivity occurs, hi-definition downloadable movies are only for people with great connections or those people who don't mind compressed a/v.

However, when the bandwidth is there, the movie and tv industry is in for a major shake up similar to the music industry. (MP3s also drive me crazy. Paying full price for a compressed song blows.)



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Game_boy said:
It's illegal, so it doesn't count.


 Purchasing HD movies for download is illegal?



Leo-j said: If a dvd for a pc game holds what? Crysis at 3000p or something, why in the world cant a blu-ray disc do the same?

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sieanr said:
Game_boy said:
It's illegal, so it doesn't count.


Purchasing HD movies for download is illegal?


 Depends on the place, but purchasing is no guarantee of legality. I could "sell" Transformers the movie (for example) to you for download today but it wouldn't be legal.



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chuckd said:
This thread brings up the major issue with downloadable content that drives me crazy. Compression sucks. The bandwidth required to download uncompressed files is not readily available. Until the next big revolution in internet connectivity occurs, hi-definition downloadable movies are only for people with great connections or those people who don't mind compressed a/v.

However, when the bandwidth is there, the movie and tv industry is in for a major shake up similar to the music industry. (MP3s also drive me crazy. Paying full price for a compressed song blows.)

Good logic you have there... DVD's & HD/BR-DVD's movies are all compressed. Hell even vhs uses a form of compression in the form of frames per second limitations. Remember SP, EP and all those cool settings? If you can tell the difference between a compressed HD-DVD and uncompressed movie or even a uncompressed audio file vs a 192k-256k mp3 I would be very impressed and you would be 1 in... a billion. Leaving data uncompressed is archaic and we moved away from it for a reason. Sony always makes me laugh with their retarded "uncompressed data makes for higher framerates" excuse. Talk about having no idea about what their own technology can do (limitation hasnt been the cpu in decades. The limitation is the how fast the data gets to the cpu via the br-drive in this case thus uncompressed data takes a lot longer to feed than compressed data).

What I hate about downloadable stuff is the fact that I like having hard copies like others have mentioned especially if I have to pay for the content. I think the next evolution will be downloadable content and a media type that is much smaller than disks but with similar quality. My vote goes to memory cards once they are cheap enough. HD & BR are going no where.



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Tispower said:
selnor said:
well 800 mb demos take bout 6 mins for me. 8mb broadband

Highest speend broadband in this area is only 2mb! :O


I feel bad for you

The highest in my area is 50Mb/s, but you have to be seriously rich for that. I personally have 20Mb/s for $30/month (before any taxes) but that was a special promotion. Come next year i'll be downgrading to 10Mb/s for the same price (unless they run another promotion). You can't really go any cheaper for broadband in my area unless you want like <1Mb/s


 lucky you. thoigh isn't there a difference in 2mb, and 2Mb, cos I can't remember whether that it 2Mb or 2mb. Though atm our internet connection is slowerthan that! However, it is totally free lol



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I'd rather not have low-res (comparatively), space hogging, overpriced, drm crippled downloaded media.

I'll stick with HD-DVD and Blu-ray. Give me REAL media that I can hold in my hand.

Realistically, IF downloaded media ever becomes big, there will always be a niche market for higher quality media like HD-DVD and Blu-ray (such as the type of people who frequent avsforum).



Tispower said:
 Until internet speeds are vastly improved, that won't happen. And atm, the only way they can be improved, is by replacing the phone lines with fibre optics, and frankly, that's going to take longer than 2009!

 Verizon has already started with fiber optics. It's called FiOS. It's not available everywhere, but is available in some places now. No need to wait for 2009. Speeds of up to 30 Mb/s: http://www22.verizon.com/content/consumerfios/packages+and+prices/packages+and+prices.htm



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yikes $180 a month...30 Mb/s would be a dream though...oh man. Even 15 MB/s would rock...



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if everyone had 30Mb/s, piracy would run rampant. downloading movies will be as easy as dling a song. kinda weird how people view downloading a song as normal practice now.




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(09/09/07, 01:13) if everyone had 30Mb/s, piracy would run rampant. downloading movies will be as easy as dling a song. kinda weird how people view downloading a song as normal practice now.

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My point exactly. Downloadable music took off exceptionally fast.
The same is inevitable for Films and the like. people still buy CDs but the downloading of music makes more revenue now. especially in the last 12 months.

Blu ray is insignificant to the PS3 cause. it's not a plus for the console. Anyone who thinks that it is in for a shock over the next few years including Sony. And Toshiba for that matter. (HD DVD). People may still purchase Films on HD Media sure, but the majority will be download sales.

I dont see the PS3 having an easy time cutting costs over next 2 years.