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Quick, someone send this info to that John PR dude from Sony for some spinathon.



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BengaBenga said:
Zlejedi said:
BengaBenga said:
Is it Crazzy day today or something?

Since Wii is selling much faster than PS3 the average time of ownership is much lower. It's evident that the longer someone owns a system the more games that person will buy.

Besides it's amazing that Wii has a higher attach rate than PS3, since PS3 is supposed to be a very hardcore system which should lead to a much higher attach rate than the casual Wii.

How ?

That's not how average numbers work.

If you sold 5 Wii 24 months ago, 5 of them 12 months ago and 5 of them 6 months ago then average time of ownership is 14 months.

If you sold 1 PS3 24 months ago, 1 of them 12 months ago and one of them 6 months ago then average time of ownership.

So unless you have calculated this based on the sales numbers in your database you can't say that.  Really I haven't expected error such as this from one of people running sale charts website.

 

Yes, in your example you're right, but if you calculate it with the real numbers you'll find out that I'm right on this one.

What you ignore in your calculation is that Wii's sales are increasing, which means the average time of ownership decreases. PS3's sales are decreasing, which means an increase in average time of ownership.

 

If Wii sells 500 for a year and now 600 for a year the average time of ownership obviously decreases

 

 

 Hmm... I'm not completely sure how I'd go ahead with the numbers, so what I do now may be incorrect.

 

Total sold in the last 12 months:

Wii: 26.11M

Ps3: 10.36M

 

Total sold (lifetime to date)

Wii: 49.08M

Ps3: 21.55M

 

Percentage sold in last 12 months:

Wii: 53%

Ps3: 48%

 

So you're right Benga.



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thanks to all who have gave there input i really like to see wat others think b/c ive have different views of this subject i dont expect all to agree with me but ive been looking at the hw to sw ratios for awhile and noticed some things

the more hw the 360 sells the bigger the ratio becomes unlike wat others have posted about if the hw is so big than the ratio will be small will have to wait to see wen the 360 reaches 47mill if the ratio will be smaller than it is now

also the wii came out earlier in EU than the ps3 meaning that it should have a better ratio than the ps3 in that region this is not the case in fact the wii would be even behind the 360 if wii sports wasnt counted

ive also noticed that the 360 and ps3 ratios continue to grow at a much faster pace than the wiis and i ecxpect the ps3 to grow faster soon with games lik FF and GT5 and GOW3 coming out while most of the wiis heavy hitters have already came out im not a nin expert but will there be another mario kart wii fit ssbb and others for the wii this gen? how many other games do u know of that will come out for the wii that will sell over 6 mill?



                                                             

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Way to ignore everybody's arguments.

Who cares, anyway? Can't win 'em all, Besides, the Wii is still annihilating the PS3 like meat in a grinder in the categories that matter.



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BHR-3 said:
thanks to all who have gave there input i really like to see wat others think b/c ive have different views of this subject i dont expect all to agree with me but ive been looking at the hw to sw ratios for awhile and noticed some things

the more hw the 360 sells the bigger the ratio becomes unlike wat others have posted about if the hw is so big than the ration will be small wi have to wait to see wen the 360 reaches 47mill if the ratio will be smaller than it is now

also the wii came out earlier in EU than the ps3 meaning that it should have a better ratio than the ps3 in that region this is not the case in fact the wii would be even behind the 360 if wii sports wasnt counted

ive also noticed that the 360 and ps3 ratios continue to grow at a much faster pace than the wiis and i ecxpect the ps3 to grow faster soon with games lik FF and GT5 and GOW3 coming out while most of the wiis heavy hitters have already came out im not a nin expert but will there be another mario kart wii fit ssbb and others for the wii this gen? how many other games do u know of that will come out for the wii that will sell over 6 mill?

over 6 million? Only considering games that we know are under development

 

Certain

Wii Sports resort

Next mario platformer

 

Probable

Dragon Quest X

Mario and Sonic @ the Winter Games

Wii Zelda

 



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Considering PS3 had no noteworthy games the 1st year (Barring Resistance and Motorstorm).......



Come on, we all know its because wii owners are struggling to find new releases that they actually want to buy and play. And no, thats not trolling, thats opinion based on the fact the top 5 selling wii games are the same every week



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colonelstubbs said:
Come on, we all know its because wii owners are struggling to find new releases that they actually want to buy and play. And no, thats not trolling, thats opinion based on the fact the top 5 selling wii games are the same every week

 

finnaly a post i can relate to i didnt want to say it b/c im the thread creater and dont want to be biased but i think u hit the nail on the head with that one



                                                             

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The reason is simple

There has not been a true "must buy" Wii game since Wii Fit. There have been a lot of good games -- but nothing really earth-shaking.

That is because Nintendo put a lot of games out early in the life cycle of its system and it has left this time for third parties to try to establish their niche on the system.

I expect it to bring out the heavy weapons at E3 and have more games out there that people in the holiday season.

Two other thoughts to ponder:

1. The Xbox 360 is a software selling machine.
2. Most people don't buy a lot of games for their systems. Because if the normal tie rate is 10(+/- 2) -- think about how some of our purchases must be balanced out by others who don't buy as much.

Mike from Morgantown

Doing his part to up the Wii tie ratio with 10 new games purchased this week: Shaun White; FF:CCCB; Madworld, Monster Lab; Sega Bass Fishing; Jewel Master: Cradle of Rome; Sonic Unleashed; Sonic and the Black Knight; Neopets Puzzle Master; Mushroom Men.






      


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No offense but it looks like if all that you were doing is looking for thing that make the PS3's attach rate look good and the Wii's attach rate look bad



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