yea happens on all fronts, got wii fans saying KH 3 will be wii exclusive, got 360 fans saying ff and mgs4 is coming to 360, and we got ps3 fans saying bioshock either sucks or rocks if it comes to ps3.

Hardcore gamers like RPGs again?  From the definition of Hardcore gamer i've gotten from this generation i'd expect a hardcore gamer to pop a Final Fantasy game in for 5 minutes.... get seriously freaked out and have their sexuality challenged when they find out that "Hot chick" they like is totally a dude and then throw in the latest FPS for 6 hours because shooting things in the face and watching them die is the only thing that makes them feel like a man again.

EDIT: Heh forgot my actual point.  Point being.  Final Fantasy 13 should sell a lot of PS3's.  Though I expect sales will still be disapointing for SE.  However they've put themselves in a corner, regardless they have the spinoffs to make up for the loss. 

Maybe we'll see a PC Port or even a 360 port.  But i wouldn't expect it to be the case until a half a year or so after the PS3 release. 

w/e as long as it come for the PS3 and it isn't dumbed down then I'm happy. I'm started to get real tired of these console wars. Sure I want MS to go down, but all this bickering is annoying.

Hus you where never right about anything, Thats exactly the reason i don't seeing FFXIII selling 5 mil.

If FFXII only sold 5 million on a console with a 120+ million instalation base how do you figure FFXIII is going to sell 5 million on a 10-20 million instalation base?

By Jan09:
PS3:18 million at least.
X360:20million at least.
These predictions are more rough than tree bark but whatever.All i did was use the data on each console now look at how they fare up to one another i.ePS3 selling pretty close to X360,X360 now on 10.5million WW after 1.5years at the end of 08 it would have been out 3years equaling 21million sold if sales continue like this.PS3 tracking close to X360,X360 sold 7million in 1st year only being available in NA for 05 Christmas,PS3 only available in JPN and NA for 06 Christmas.PS3 tracking just above X360 by about 100k units at the moment.I expect atleast 8million WW for PS3 at the end of 07 so at the end of 08 i expect atleast 18million PS3's, sales rise due to anticipated games and price cuts.

FinalFantasy the biggest RPG ever, sells the best in JPN where its No.2 on the Famitsu chart of anticipated games which is voted by reader of the magazine.It will sell alot of consoles every where and will sell atleast FFXII numbers(userbase smalller,yet its meant to be the second coming of FFVII)FFXII sold 4.94million.JPN PS3 sales are 1.16million after just under a year so add on a Christmas say 500k(atleast) and double making the PS3 user base by the end of 08 3.2million.Atleast 2million of them will pick up FFXIII you cant deny that,It will sell atleast 500k of consoles being one of the most anticipated titles.NA sales of PS3 will be 4million by the end of 08 i would say atleast 1million would pick up FFXIII and it sells 250k consoles atleast.EU 1.32million WITHOUT a Christmas so add 750k for Christmas making near 2million end of 08 sales 4million FFXIII selling atleast to 1.5million plus 250k of console sellings.These end of 08 sales by region are just doubling the previous trends without taking into account console sellers(Killzone2,MGS4,GT5,LBP etc) and market changes and price cuts etc.

So if i take an average of both end of 08 PS3 userbase estimates bearing in mind one has price cuts,market changes and anticipated titles on it the other doesnt i would say atleast 15.5million PS3's sold by the end of 08

Total FFXIII sellings on PS3 userbase(11million-18million) by end of 08=5.5million so it breaks 5million with about a 75% attach rate at launch but that attach rate drops with every console sold so by the end of the PS3 life i expect the attach rate to be about 6-9%.

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Also we dont actually know what the other platform is,we assume its X360 but what if its PC or PS2(the original TheWhiteEngine console) it could even be the Wii although i doubt this unless they are taking ful advantage of MotionControl in Sixaxis and Wiimote(Sixaxis control wouldnt be the same as Wiimote control but the engine would be similar or the same).

 Lol, i dont think FFXIII will come to 360, i do think MGS4 will. Regardless, at this stage there doesnt exist one PS3 game whos graphics are superior to Gears, Bioshock, Forza 2 and other top 360 games.  So if either of these two major titles do come to the 360, they will not be in any way downgraded.  Sony themselves have said that it is far easier to port from the PS3 to the 360.  In any case, games like Virtua Fighter 5 are showing that games that come out on the PS3 and then the 360 6-8 months later can actually look and play far BETTER!  Also, many devs including Ubisoft and articles such as the one below indicate that the 360 actually can run AI better than the PS3.  With AI being instrumental in a game like MGS4, and very hard to program, I wouldnt be at all surprised to see it running better on the 360 if enough porting time is given. 

The first FF games on a new consoles always sells the most. FF7 and FFX is prove of that. When FF7 and FFX came out the ps1/ps2 did not have 100m+ sold consoles. I dont know how much but must have been around  20m.