Perhaps the issue at hand isn't people attacking or dismissing the PS3, there are a lot of fanboys on this site that get way too defensive when it comes to Sony.

@forevercloud3000 - Way to go, that's exactly the ignorance and arrogance that got Sony into the position they're in now

In short
Nothing can take Sony Down.

and the fact that the PS3 isnt going away, bugs the hell out of Microsoft and Nintendo

Good point. I had not thought of the reasons why Xbox was discontinued so fast due to licensing. Also due to the strong 3rd party support for HD multi-platform games I definitely agree with you that the Xbox 360 should continue to be profitable and sell for much longer. This news could even sway my prediction on 'final' generation winners with 360 staying in 2nd place if it also goes the distance towards a '10 year life-cycle'.

thx! I try ^^

@bolded: S'plain? I said "bitter" anti-Sony fan, so if you aren't bitter you wouldn't be doing the things the OP says he is seeing.

It's true that 360 owners are afraid of PS3 success.

First simply looking at vg chartz: From November 2005 through march 2008 (2 and 1/2 years) the Xbox 360 sold 17,630,322 units. After two and a half years the PS3 is at 21,553,909. So let's do the math: in 2 1/2 years the PS3 sold 3,923,587 more units then the 360 did in 2 and a half years. Something to remember X-Box fanboys: The 360 did not come out in 2006, it came out in 2005. Now the real horror comes from knowing that the PS3 has ALWAYS been more expensive then the 360. In fact the 360 is currently HALF the price of PS3. But is it selling double what the PS3 sells? Not even close.

More horror is knowing that the PS3 is more powerful then the 360. We have already seen 3 games: Uncharted, MGS4 and Killzone 2 display graphics that could never be done on 360. And of course there's bluray. Now many X-Bots will try and dismiss bluray and say that digital downloads are the wave of the future. Why weren't digital downloads the wave of the future when Microsoft was trying to sell you a $150 HD-DVD add on for the 360? A Bluray movie can be up to 50 GB and 400 GB disks are coming this year and 1 TB disk by 2011. Do you know how long it takes to download 50 GB of information? A hell of a lot longer then some MP3 on Itunes. What's that compression? No thanks. Even if downloads are the wave of the future PS3 wins again. My PS3 has a 350 GB HD in it. How much did it cost me? About half of what you paid for you 120 GB proprietary 360 HD. Developers are struggling now to fit games like Tekken 6 on 1 DVD. Now you see the genius of Sony spending money on first party software showing off the power of PS3 instead of MILLIONS of dollars on- *snicker*- DLC for games I cared about two years ago. X-Bots say "but when the PS3 outsells the 360 it won't matter because the X-box 720 will be out". PS3 fans aren't worried about the PS4 or the X-Box 720- PS3 is the future NOW, and the PS3 will have a shelf life of at least one, but more likely 3 years more then 360.

And then we can get into Japan where all those exclusive JRPG failures most definitely will not equate to more Japanese support. In the west the 360 is winning. But not by much. Yes Halo has helped keep the Bible belt on lock. But everywhere else the preference is split down the middle.

And always, ALWAYS remember that Microsoft has FIVE TIMES the money that Sony does. So to be beaten by a company that has one fifth the recourses that you have two console generations in a row would be nothing less than utterly humiliating.

I don't feel threatened, I just see the idea of it as laughable.

I don't feel like doing the math because I've already done it several times in other threads, but if the PS3 started outselling the 360 today by 100k a month, it would still take more than three years for the PS3 to overtake the 360.

It's not a bad bet to assume FFXIII and GT5 won't come out until 2010 or close to it and by then that lead will be even greater. 

By 2013 it won't matter if the PS3 just catches up to the 360 because by that time we will already have the next one and the next generation are excited.

So I guess my question is why do people feel so threatened when I say this generation is already decided?

because the mere thought of it is pure failure on your behalf

I don't get both sides. The people who think it will sell "x" number , or the people in every single X console thread trying there hardest to prove or convince people it won't sell that much. I mean, do the predictions of people really instill that much thought provoking emotion (Even if those arguments are Rational) ) That you go to THOSE lengths, to try to justify your thought process? Really?

      Of course now that the PSP has an install base very close to 12 million in Japan, then there is every reason to believe that it is providing developers every bit the same impetus to develop new games for it that the DS had when it had an install base of 12 million in Japan, and I believe there were games in development for the DS in Japan when its install base was at 12 million that helped it to reach the install base of 26 million that it has now?  I think Square would have put DQIX on PSP instead of DS if they had had any idea how successful PSP was going to start to become last year.  Just as they have FFXIII Agito and two Kingdom Hearts games headed exclusively to the PSP.  Other than DQIX and the Kingdom Hearts Four Swords game what game has Square announced as coming to the DS that wasn't released more than ten years ago on another console?

     I believe DQ IX was announced for the DS when it had an install base less than that of the PSP now, so there is every bit of a reason to believe that Square could have more top tier rpgs in development for PSP than the ones they have so far announced.

     The PSP has technical specifications that the DS can't match that Japanese developers might want to take advantage of in the fact that it has better graphics and sound capabilities than the DS and that it can be connected to a tv to output a video signal there as well.

Finally, the PSP and its install base is larger than the Wiis and this could also give Japanese developers more impetus to put games upon the PSP than the Wii and this could be evident from in the fact that the PSP outsells the Wii every week in Japan, and I feel that the PSP being more successful than the Wii is also helping the PS3 be as successful as it has been recently against the Wii.

IMO the way this thread is going is because of the OP's choice of words. "Threatened" is such a loaded word. You can't expect Wii and 360 owners to come out and admit being "threatened", can you?

This is simply flamebaiting. No meaningful exchange can come out of this kind of topic. But I can try.

I am a Wii owner. But before that, I was a PS2 owner. A happy one. I am not beholden to Sony, though. However, I do wish them well. If the 360 can place behind and still make money, why can't the PS3?

I don't feel threatened with the surges of either 360 or PS3. In fact, I welcome it, because it encourages competition. Frankly, I'd like to see a Wii = 360 + PS3 weekly sales, because I think that's the way to maintain a healthy three-way console market. Sadly, I think the PS3 isn't doing it's part to maintain that equation.

The fate of the PS3 does not and should not rest on the fate of the Wii or 360. It's up to Sony to make the machine profitable and to keep its marketshare healthy. Placing third, second or whatever does not matter.

In the same token, the happiness of PS3 owners should not rest on the happiness (or even the lack thereof) of Wii and 360 owners. It's up to PS3 owners to find solace with their already excellent library.