The crazy thing is that the thread was originally...*gasp* not about Stalin. It's just strange watching people defend and justify the actions of terrible dictators just to justify another person being more evil.

I think that's the thing that rubbed people the wrong way though.  That Hitler was the "go to" guy and not Stalin.

Well I think people should have been more rubbed that Osama was put in there instead. Hitler is a pretty evil and well known guy, and Hitler vs. Stalin would have been a much better contest.

They probably just thought like me that it wasn't a serious thread and one just made up to see if anyone would actually say Osama.

Kinda like if someone posted a thread "Better Basketball player Michael Jordan or Kevin Durant."

They're just looking for unreasonable Homers... just how this thread was likely looking for super self absorbed americans.

I still think that Hitler beats Stalin, by a country mile.

Stalin had a bigger body count?  Stalin had more time.

Hitler moved the world (which was bent on securing peace after the horrors of WWI) into the biggest war it's ever yet seen.  He was so evil, he couldn't last--the destruction he created wound up swallowing him and his country whole.  Later speculation aside, Stalin died in bed from natural causes.

Hitler had an ideology?  He had grand plans, and these are supposed to somehow lessen his evilness?  His ideology and his plans involved exterminating incredible swaths of the world's population.  Way more evil than Stalin's simple drive to protect himself against his imagined enemies.

Stalin at his most ambitious sucked up the Nazi wreckage of Eastern Europe into the Warsaw Pact, basically a military buffer zone.  He was more a nationalist than an internationalist, and to my knowledge, he never had any real plans of any kind of "world conquest."

Hitler?  Had to be stopped.  If he hadn't be stopped, by force, he wouldn't have stopped himself.

Finally, Hitler proved his evil over Stalin directly: the two leaders were allied for a time and, of course, one eventually betrayed the other.  Hitler got there first; even bat-shit paranoid Stalin was more loyal.

There may have been men more evil than even Hitler... but I'm not sure that any of them have ever been in the position to prove it.  Both Hitler and Stalin were incredibly evil, almost so much as to redefine the concept, but Hitler, who was so destructive as to inspire Churchill to work with Stalin, trumps his Russian adversary.

Stalin at his most ambitious would of rolled up all the way to france if he could have.

They were planning to invade japan despite the allies agreement being that he wouldn't.

It wasn't that Stalin wasn't ambitous.  It's that the Nuclear bombs stopped his ambition... they made it so you couldn't just annex territoreis anymore.

Also.  I don't care about that other stuff so much as Stalin just killed more people...

When talking about full reign Stalin over the world likely would of killed more people then Hitler in the long run since stalin was less discrimtory.

Most Germans were relativly safe and didn't have to worry until things started going bad in the war.  While every russian had to be afraid  Hitler had his secret police but they really didn't do much to the majority of the people who were willing to "tow the line".

Stalin... you could be his best friend and he'd stab you in the back just because he thinks you've been his best friend too long.

Hitlers hate was directed at a few specific groups of people... everyone who "fit his bill" was mostly safe... people he saw as true germans didn't live horrible lives.  

Fear is a much more dangerous evil then Hate.  Because Fear hits in a scatter shot while hate has lazer beam like percision.

One the one hand some people would argue that such pinpoint percision is exactly why he was more evil, because he targeted people just because of who they were rather then deep seated paranoia to which you could at least argue that the person had some "guilt" in arising susipison...

Although oftentimes one persons ethnicity was all that was needed to count for "rising suspison."

So really Stalin was a Hitler +.

We did bomb the train tracks supplying the camps. Thats why they all starved.

Bush

Well, obviously Hitler was much more evil. Also are people that retarded to still believe that Osama Bin Laden and a bunch of Arabs were responsible for 9/11?

Are people so foolish to believe conspiracy theories from wasted crackheads?