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Are you pro-choice or pro-life?

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TheRealMafoo said:
I am both. When it's a life, it has rights.

When is it a life is debatable. Personally, I think it's when a fetus could live on it's own (some time in the third trimester).

So, I am pro abortion for the first 6 months, anti after it.

 

 

Exactly what he said.



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What about mandatory abortion for people already on wellfare? They can't afford the kids they already have, what right do they have to place a further burden on society?

I'd be willing to allow exceptions if they could prove they object to it for religious reasons, but it would have to be documented prior. Since at least 60% of people are prochoice, this should take a huge dent out of wellfare.



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Tyrannical said:
What about mandatory abortion for people already on wellfare? They can't afford the kids they already have, what right do they have to place a further burden on society?

I'd be willing to allow exceptions if they could prove they object to it for religious reasons, but it would have to be documented prior. Since at least 60% of people are prochoice, this should take a huge dent out of wellfare.

You'll find most pro-choicers don't agree with this because they are pro-choice. Once you make abortions compulsory you are swinging way too far the other way in my opinion, thats curtailing the freedom in the opposite direction.

 



Rath said:
Tyrannical said:
What about mandatory abortion for people already on wellfare? They can't afford the kids they already have, what right do they have to place a further burden on society?

I'd be willing to allow exceptions if they could prove they object to it for religious reasons, but it would have to be documented prior. Since at least 60% of people are prochoice, this should take a huge dent out of wellfare.

You'll find most pro-choicers don't agree with this because they are pro-choice. Once you make abortions compulsory you are swinging way too far the other way in my opinion, thats curtailing the freedom in the opposite direction.

 


I think they loose their right to choose when taxpayers have to pick up the bill.

Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

Tyrannical said:

 

I think they loose their right to choose when taxpayers have to pick up the bill.

 

I think that having fewer children - especially when you're on welfare - should be incentivized, but forcing an abortion on somebody is in my mind pretty terrible.



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Rath said:
Tyrannical said:

 

I think they loose their right to choose when taxpayers have to pick up the bill.

 

I think that having fewer children - especially when you're on welfare - should be incentivized, but forcing an abortion on somebody is in my mind pretty terrible.

 

Forcing taxpayers to pick up the tab is pretty terrible too. Birth control is pretty close to 100% effective, and any one already on wellfare should be told no more children that you can't afford. Perhaps we should just require birth control for anyone on wellfare.

I would grant exceptions for prior documented religious reasons, and maybe if they were on birth control and it didn't work.



Yet, today, America's leaders are reenacting every folly that brought these great powers [Russia, Germany, and Japan] to ruin -- from arrogance and hubris, to assertions of global hegemony, to imperial overstretch, to trumpeting new 'crusades,' to handing out war guarantees to regions and countries where Americans have never fought before. We are piling up the kind of commitments that produced the greatest disasters of the twentieth century.
 — Pat Buchanan – A Republic, Not an Empire

Rath said:
Tyrannical said:

 

I think they loose their right to choose when taxpayers have to pick up the bill.

 

I think that having fewer children - especially when you're on welfare - should be incentivized, but forcing an abortion on somebody is in my mind pretty terrible.

At the very least, it's a frightening door to open and I think you'd have to be a damned fool to allow the government that kind of power over people.

 




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dsister44 said:
Hawkeye said:
I'm pro-death I suppose. Though personally, I will NEVER have an abortion.

lol, what are you doing that will get you pregnant?

 

 

LOL, I was complelty kidding around with my post. I am a guy.