The other woman in that photo is 3 years older then you... and she is def worth dating.

Yeah, but you don't see too many 39 year-olds that look that good.

Time for an update. This thread is going to be a sega, perhaps even a swan song for me.

So we stay late in the evening at works under the assumption that we will be going to the club. So I call up the club and I'm informed that she's not working tonight. So I work up the nerve to call her. I say nerve because I didn't want to have to deal with having to explain who I am.

So it rings and rings, then a gruffy voice answers, I confirm it's her. I say my name.... confusion... I say my name (which is very uncommon in my city, so I'm the only one she should know) and my profession at which point she recognizes and her attitude changes and she becomes the girl I know.

So I explain how I was hoping she was working tonight. She explais her schedule to me for the week to which I say we'll probably see each tother than.

She asks how my week is going and if we're working hard on the case. To which I answer that the week started off bad and slow. She mentionned that she had heard about the case on the news this week and that it made her think of me. I explain the details of what she had seen. (well, that which is public knowledge). She mentions how what we do is impressive and important. I'm not going to argue with her on that.

I ask if she had received my invation text, which she had not. Well, she received a notice that my phone number had messaged her, but thecontents were lost. I explain the contents. She asks the event date. Since it's Easter Sunday, and it's a big thing in her family, she won't be able to go. She says she appreciates that I was keeping my ears open to things that will benefit her. I confirmed that she would therefore go to the next such event. Her answer wax in the affirmative.

She mentions how she spent the weekend practicing her music. I asked if she was in an appartment and if her neighbors minded. I said if they give you trouble about it, let me know and I'll see what I can do (legal work, not ass kicking) to which she said Ahh you're so kind.

So basically, I've crossed the hurdle of the first personal contact, the first name recognition and the first time she realizes to what extent I'm looking out for her. All in all a nice contact that I'm satisfied with. I would have loved instant name recognition, but that will come with time.

Glad to hear things so far have gone fairly smooth.

Hope things pan out well for you! Keep us posted.

Now that youve crossed the first hurdle you have the rest of the race ahead of you to focus on. Congratz

Yes. Congratulations. Now the trick is to not fall into that "friend who can get things done" role, and make sure you stay an option in her mind as a romantic partner.

But great first step :)

Yeah, the friends role could be a problem. It will be the subject of some thought to not fall into that trap.

Anyways our new plans are to go tomorrow night. I'll make sure shell recognize me the next time I happen to call. The exact strategy to convince her I'm someone to keep on her phone radar and romantic radar will also be subject to much consideration tomorrow.

I seriously have to get right to sleep now, so goodnight to all wellwishers.

Swing for the fence gentlemen.

Honestly, you sound desperate. Don't offer to help the woman with random legal services, don't mention your profession, and sure as shit don't ever try to drop where you live as bait to a stripper. It not only cheapens you but it also cheapens her. If she's good looking and talented, she probably gets it every day. Maybe not outwardly but there's still a condescension there in the background, as if your social status is somehow relevant to the burgeoning relationship.

If you truly want to get to know this girl better, come out and ask her. Be genuine and throw out "I want to have dinner with you. That's it." if you really have feelings for her. And SURE AS SHIT don't sleep with her right off. These girls are hit on all night, every night. They're physical objects to 99% of their clients (with most of the other 1% falling into the "extremely creepy" category). Don't be one of those guys. Don't try to impress her with money, symphonies, or legal advice. As the sage-like Jay once said, "Go for the heart, yo." Take her someplace nice, talk her up, get to know her, and break that stripper shell. Then take her back home and do it again, slightly stepping up the intimate relationship as things progress. Take the ball away from her and play your own game. She's probably used to guys wooing her with objects; do something different.

Many strippers aren't the typical whores that they inevitably get labeled as by guys. Many use the profession to get through school, pay debts, whatever. Then, when they realize that the money can't be topped in a traditional profession without years of hard work, stay in it as long as they can.

Without prying, how old is this girl? I'm curious. That says a lot about a stripper.

There are sound words of advice in your post, Rocketpig. Unfortunetly, much of the things you say not to mention have been. Not always by me, but by my friends. She is 23 to answer your question to my 27. It has always been my intention to throw a curve ball by not trying to make a pass at her on the first date. That is still my MO.

Anyways...

So we to there tonight. Have a great time. I ask her about many things but get her favorite restaurant out of her and offer to take her next week. I used Starcrafts "your answer won't affect our business relationship" to which she says that is so nice. No "yes" but not a "no " either.

I said to her make sure you recognize me next time I call you.

She does her floor shows and blows me a kiss after each of her exits, which is sweet of her.

Whatever happens, I'll keep you posted on a respectful level.

Thats awesome and that also shows she seems genuinely interested.