that people part wasn't meant for people that played through them lol, i just forgot to seperate it with enters. well, of course you won't have the WOW factor because 64 was the first of it's kind back in the day, I'm simply comparing the 2 games is all, it is a better game, just no more WOW, you know?
I don't think MGS4 is bad or anything, it just didn't feel like a game a lot of the times, and the plots don't always make good sense with good logic if you can pin point the problems in them, it was kinda over done. but of course, that's only my opinion, I'm sure the die hard fans wouldn't agree with me.
Oh I see your opinion and I understand it. Everyone has different gaming tastes ya know? I guess I feel like, yeah Mario is a good game. (Almost every Mario I have ever played is fun). I just don't think Galaxy differentiates itself enough to impress me. I mean Mario 64 is now over 10 years in the rear view mirror and I feel like when playing Galaxy that there is very little different from Galaxy / Mario 64 with the occasional usage of the Wii-mote and running on planets.
I think MGS4 is a conclusion to a game for the fans. It's always been a series with a lot of cutscenes or codec conversations interrupting the gameplay. The gameplay by itself is somewhat shallow IMO (But the games success has been it's uniqueness and how it could immerse you into the story of the game). The plots are no more confusing IMO than any of the other MGS games in the series and while I'm sure you could poke holes in it's logic in several places, Overall (Especially if you read up on the included Game Database) you can put a lot of things together.
I think the problem with this argument is MGS4 will not be appealing to many people because it assumes you've played other Metal Gear Sold games to some extent and actually enjoy the gameplay. It just seems to me a lot of people either never played the other Metal Gear Solid games (Or particularly enjoyed them) but expected to enjoy the 4th one.