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WereKitten said:
t'sMr Khan said:

If the game acknowledges that the girls are underage, then yeah, i don't understand how its legal. Pretty sure portraying a fictional underage girl still constitutes child porn. Hentai sites that clearly portray this sort of thing all come with the disclaimer that they're portraying 18-year-olds so the feds don't drop the hammer

 

So the question isn't whether the game should be banned, if people are reading laws right, this game already is banned.

I'm quite sure that's not the case in general. If that was true then De Sade's books could not be published, and they are.

Actually I think that Juliet and Romeo were underage too...

 

Visible portrayal, then. Romeo and Juliet don't get naked for all to see, and neither are they generally played by Actors/Actresses of the actual age of the characters (lest it be a high school play)

EDIT: Ahh, here's a quote from the last page of the article in question:

(For example, all underage characters' ages get rounded up to 18, no matter how young the character looks.)



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let's wait till they find out about Battle Raper series :P



Raping another person is an end in itself .

People don't usualy kill for the sake of killing , in games it's usualy a means to an end. For example you kill the Nazi's to stop the nazi invasion or you kill liquid ocelot to prevent him from gaining control of the SOP system.

It's when Killing becomes an end in itself it's looked down upon , e.g Manhunt , GTA 4 possibly Killing for the sake of killing is worse than killing to achieve an end.

It would seem abnormal to use rape as a noble means to an end , I don't think neither killing for the sake or killing or raping for the sake of raping is acceptable but to say " we do X so surely everything less evil than X should be acceptable" is damn right stupid?

Don't use one evil to justify another.

 

And then there are those that say" this is adult content .. we should leave it to adults to decide if they want to play/watch it" and keep children as far away as possible. I disagree I think there needs to be a degree of censorship regardless of age and allowing people to play/watch media portraying the idea of non consensual sex on demand worries me alot. These are people who may work in your schools , sit by you on the bus , serve your food at resturaunts ; how can we be sure that the average person is in the right frame of mind to consume this kind of content , what does it say about the kind of person who desires to consume this content, you might fly the liberality flag and say it's the "individuals choice" but when that individual is in your household with the intent to abuse you/your family  you'd realise there was a need for censorship.



OMFG i thought people who play Second Life are a bit weird , but people(sick,) that play this rape simulation is just ..... i can`t describe how deep is this all going , what will be next , taking poo simulation , animal stalker simulation ???



NinjaKido said:
Raping another person is an end in itself .

People don't usualy kill for the sake of killing , in games it's usualy a means to an end. For example you kill the Nazi's to stop the nazi invasion or you kill liquid ocelot to prevent him from gaining control of the SOP system.

It's when Killing becomes an end in itself it's looked down upon , e.g Manhunt , GTA 4 possibly Killing for the sake of killing is worse than killing to achieve an end.

It would seem abnormal to use rape as a noble means to an end , I don't think neither killing for the sake or killing or raping for the sake of raping is acceptable but to say we do X so surely everything less evil than X should be acceptable ?

Don't use one evil to justify another.

So in Gears when gamers giggle while chainsawing another character in multiplayer, they're doing it for freedom, the country and mom's apple pie? Pieces of meat and blood spluttering around are just titillating their sadism, because, you know, we are all sadics in some measure. And they're feeling the exilaration of violent victory, because, you know, we're all violent prevaricating bastards in some measure.

And that's not an evil justified by another evil. That's not an evil at all.

I might find exagerate affection for digital gore silly, but never evil. As I find that rape game quite silly, but not evil.

Simply because evil - being a moral denotation - does not apply to actions that only affect bunch of pixels. Morality is about how we treat other living beings.

 



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@NinjaKido: Well, you hit the nail in the head. What does it indeed say about a person that desires to consume this content. Or maybe the most important thing; how is that person different whether he/she gets or not his/her hands on the game in question?

As for the part where do you say that "lesser evil" don't need to be accepted just because "greater evil" is, there's the thing that how can we accept that "greater evil" if we even can't accept the "lesser evil"? There has to be a standard somewhere. In fact, the logical solution would be to ban everything up from the "lesser evil".
Now, PETA can use the excact same argumentation against how the dogs are treated in CoD.

If you notice, you are saying here that: the game should be banned because i find it repulsive.

Personally, i don't have any problems with raping games if the game is good.



Ei Kiinasti.

Eikä Japanisti.

Vaan pannaan jalalla koreasti.

 

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Thats pretty creepy, but I dont see it as being much worse than the violence in GTA, Madworld, Manhunt etc. Better that sickos play this than go out and rape somebody.



To be honest, I don't condone rape simulators, but I fail to see how they are any worse than some proper murder simulators masquerading as action games.

Like the poster above me said, 'Better that sickos play this than go out and rape somebody.'


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I doubt this game will sell at all but it probably will sell more because of the exposure (or not so much since there are a bunch of free versions available). Reminds me of Night Trap controversy..



bdbdbd said:
@NinjaKido: Well, you hit the nail in the head. What does it indeed say about a person that desires to consume this content. Or maybe the most important thing; how is that person different whether he/she gets or not his/her hands on the game in question?

As for the part where do you say that "lesser evil" don't need to be accepted just because "greater evil" is, there's the thing that how can we accept that "greater evil" if we even can't accept the "lesser evil"? There has to be a standard somewhere. In fact, the logical solution would be to ban everything up from the "lesser evil".
Now, PETA can use the excact same argumentation against how the dogs are treated in CoD.

If you notice, you are saying here that: the game should be banned because i find it repulsive.

Personally, i don't have any problems with raping games if the game is good.

Child porn, raping games, what else?

 

bdbdbd said:
@Wookaroo: I hope you understand that you're now in for banning all the games someone finds offensive. I really wouldn't have thought that there are that many people backing Jack Thompson up.

Now, you made one oxymoron in your post. When you are justifying your violence in "shooting a corrupt cop" or "hunting down criminals" you actually become one of the hunted, when the justification is only in your head anymore, which isn't different from killing innocent people.

I know you think differently, which is pretty bad thing in the sense that you actually think something justifies killing people (outside self defense when your life is theatened). For me, it's pretty irrelevant what the violence in the videogame is and who will suffer - it's only a videogame where nobody is getting hurt. If i don't like the game, i down buy it.

I never said I wanted to ban anything, unless you mean the child porn. Do you mind telling me what games feature child pornography? As far as I know, they aren't any and probably never will be? Lumping me in with Jack thompson is pretty ridiculous. Might I remind you that it's illegal in the US anyway? There are some things that don't deserve the opportunity to be produced for the general population. Child porn is one of them. If you advocate it, fine. That's your problem.

The negative label you stuck on me is just a tad ironic considering my moderate tendancies, but whatever...



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