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Euphoria14 said:

I don't know, maybe it is just me. I just know that I think things are fine how they are and wouldn't mind having the current consoles last another 6-7+ years before anything new comes out.

 

Er, that's fine for you, but I think Microsoft wants to be able to compete in an expanded market, and perhaps even expand it themselves.



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Demotruk said:
You could have said the same thing about the Wii-mote.

They're taking the approach that hardware is a software enabler, not the other way around. It's the right approach, I'd be glad of it except that they may be so ambitious that the console ends up too expensive...

A versatile controller with the console means that it's much more likely to get software support (as third parties can feel comfortable with the market penetration of the controller).

 

I have always thought the same thing about the Wii-mote, even if I enjoy the console and it's games.

 



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Demotruk said:
Euphoria14 said:

I don't know, maybe it is just me. I just know that I think things are fine how they are and wouldn't mind having the current consoles last another 6-7+ years before anything new comes out.

 

Er, that's fine for you, but I think Microsoft wants to be able to compete in an expanded market, and perhaps even expand it themselves.

 

I get where it could end up being good for Microsoft, but it wouldn't that great for me.

If it has a low cost I could most likely look past it, like I did with the Wii, but if it comes out being not that big an upgrade, just a new control scheme and comes packed with a high price I will most likely pass it up. 

 

Unless they get some kind of Diablo exclusive that is.

 



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Ok, fine, but it's hard to ignore the success of the strategy.



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Demotruk said:
Ok, fine, but it's hard to ignore the success of the strategy.

 

You could be right. I'll wait for more info before I whine like a sissy in the corner all by myself.



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JaggedSac
If you look at the prices of othe Media box's (centre's) its a good £400 cheaper so really youve got to say its ahead of its time if they are saying this is the way Console gaming is going.



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

joshin69 said:
JaggedSac
If you look at the prices of othe Media box's (centre's) its a good £400 cheaper so really youve got to say its ahead of its time if they are saying this is the way Console gaming is going.

The inclusion of a Blu-Ray is the only thing that seperates the "media" box functionality in the PS3 from the 360; as they both support multiple audio/video files (and streaming from your computer) as well as movie rental services.

I'm not bashing the PS3, but lets not trip over ourselves patting Sony on the back for being "ahead of their time".  The infrastructure around everything (including DVD playback, but excluding Blu-ray) was available on the 360, prior to the PS3's release.



TRios_Zen
Sorry i don't have a 360 so i didn't know you could surf the net and watch TV (with TV play)

 

*Sorry that sounded a little sharp, I just thought that the definition of a media centre is a point where all your media entertainment is centred. watch films, TV, listen to music, surf the net, e-mail and play games which i all do on my PS3 so does that not make it a true media centre?

**I'm not saying well done *pat on back* because although it was what i wanted its obvious that it wasn't what the majority of gamers wanted. I'm just saying that if MS do go down this route (which I'm not convinced, I think they would rather have the PC under the TV) then a lot of the flak that Sony got for not just making a games machine would look quite, i don't know, short sighted.



 

 assumption is the mother of all f**k ups 

The question that must be answered is what do people want and expect from their video game consoles.

So far, no console that has tried to be more than a console has reached "mainstream success" (though the Xbox 360 is getting close -- see note below) and some have failed miserably (see 3DO, Nuon, etc.).

Most people buy game machines to buy games. Nintendo held that belief more firmly than the other two companies this generation and has prospered (and even it allows for Internet browsing and video streaming is/may be coming).

MMORPGs make a lot of money on subscriptions. But MMORPGs and RTS games played by a small but active and vocal minority of gamers. Catering to them -- and not attending to the needs of the others -- could be a bad long-term strategy. Hopefully, Microsoft is looking to expand its reach rather than limit it.

Mike from Morgantown

I define "mainstream success" with a low bar -- reaching the sales of the Atari 2600 -- approximately 30M worldwide lifetime.

Under such a definition, only the 2600, NES, SNES, PS1, PS2, and Wii have reached that pinnacle. That is one game console per generation. When the Xbox 360 reaches it soon, it will mark the first time that two consoles from the same generation has had such a level of success (and the PS3 will probably make it all three consoles in 2010).

As for handhelds, only the GB, GBA, DS and PSP have reached this level. Again, this is the first generation that there has been more than one product with a large install base (and the PSP is the first non-Nintendo product to achieve this among handhelds. People forget that there have been a multitude of handheld systems that Nintendo completely dominated prior to the PSP).

Also, for the sake of this discussion, I am only considering units that are game machines first. Thus no PCs and no cell phones and no music players. (Sorry Apple, your only entry is the Pippin).



      


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good, so i dont have to worry about an xmote