kjj4t9rdad said:
Onyxmeth said:
Hmmm...let's look at the possibility of maybe a stronger brand name. I give you the word "Wii". Here are the sales of various items under the branding "Wii".
Nintendo Wii console=49 million consoles sold
Wii Sports=44 million copies sold
Wii Play=22.5 million copies sold
Mario Kart Wii=15 million copies sold
Wii Fit=17 million copies sold
Wii Music=2.5 million copies sold
Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree=3 million copies sold
Soon to be added...Wii Sports Resort
Let's forget all that for a minute and just say Playstation is the strongest brand. Here are the reasonings:
1. Excuses involving price to explain away lame sales to show it is a strong brand
2. Anecdotal evidence involving random people associating videogaming with the word "Playstation"
3. To be continued later in this thread I'm sure
4. Reserved for the next lame excuse presented after the #3 spot gets filled
DId I miss anything? Gosh, now that I look at the reasoning, Playstation sure does sound the strongest. It's so strong in fact that it's pushing a healthy third place behind lame brand names nobody can remember like Microwho and Nintenwhat.
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You are hell bent on changing the OP's opinion aren't you?
Sales are not the only indicator of strong brand name. The Wii's success is not due to brand name! Nobody new what a "Wii" was 2 years ago. Nintendo hasn't been the strongest since the SNES. Launch the Wii @ $500 & $600 and lets see if it would see 21 million in 2 years. My thoughts are NO.
The games you listed all sold well, but they are all pretty pethitic games IMO. Mario Kart is a great game but a 5 year old can beat the game in just a few days. Nobody, except for a very young child, would consider any of the games you listed, good games.
btw, with the exception of Wii sports, i can simply replace every Nintendo thing you listed and replace it with PS2 things and all of those #'s go up. Sony has kicked the crap out of Nintendo, Sega, M$ and anyone else in the console industry since joining with the exception of the last 2 years. So basicly that's 20 plus years of Sony dominance vs. 2years of Nitendo dominance. It is your argument that is lame, not any price excuses as you call them.
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Isn't the point of discussion me trying to get my point across? I did back it up with facts yous know.
Asking whether the Wii could sell for $600 is irrelevant. Just to be fair though, you might want to see how dire Sony's situation was at $600. They could barely sell at all at $600 and didn't pick up any sort of momentum until the original price cut. Here's another hypothetical question no one can answer that doesn't matter. If Sony didn't drop the price and didn't pick up that momentum, would they still have sold 21 million consoles? Would they still be making consoles at all?
Regarding your opinions on the Wii branded games, you have no basis for that argument, and it's blatant trolling, so I'll have to deal with that in a minute. To answer though, Wii Fit wasn't even made for the demographic of 5 year olds, so unless you truly believe only 5 year olds are buying Wii Fit, you've already seceded your point. Really it's largely irrelevent to whether the Wii is a strong bran name or not. It's merely you shifting focus to a younger demographic as if that didn't matter. They are still being sold in great numbers, so even if true, the 5 year old demographic has single handedly given the Wii the strongest brand name in gaming. Bravo little guys.
Why would you replace Nintendo things with PS2 things? Is that supposed to accomplish something? If you have a point to explain then please do. I fully explained my position with numbers. You can't give exceptions to Sony, because those last 2 years are the current time and that's what we are focusing on. However it should be noted that your numbers are rediculously off, and it shows you have a lack of knowledge in what has transpired in gaming's past. Sony has only been in the market since 1994, so minus two years from that and you have 12 years, not 20. You failed to remember that prior to 1994 Nintendo was again the strongest brand name, so you can add that onto the total. Largely though, the point doesn't matter because the past is the past, and I have recognized the Playstation as the strongest gaming brand IN THE PAST. In the present I have shown strong evidence to support the Wii as the strongest brand name in gaming. You are merely holding onto moldy arguments of yesteryear.
