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Stromprophet said: World wide that is slightly true yes. Mainly because of Japan. I'm saying here in the US we can see it is true. 244k+294K > 436K Yeah, but a PS2 purchase contributes more than likely to a future PS3 purchase eventually. A person buying a PS2 now is not likely even interested in this gen yet (including the Wii). But in a few years, prices will be down and they might make the decision to get a PS3. Most consumers associate future purchases with their initial product purchase. I don't see any compelling reason for the numbers to change in any dramatic way until someone drops their price or a major title is released. The major titles for PS3 are still a ways off, likely this fall, 360 also has heavy hitters in the fall. I see a price drop for the 360 this year and for the PS3 when 360 price drops. Worldwide the figures are likely to change as the PS3 is launched in Europe.
I don't see any reason to believe that a sale of a PS2 today is going to be a sale of a PS3 later ... People who are buying their first PS2 at (roughly) $100 are not going to buy a PS3 at $200-$300. I could be wrong but (with how slowly consoles usually drop in price) I see very little reason to assume the PS3 will be lower than $200 before 2010/2011.



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auroragb said: Sintinel said:Oh, well I was unaware of that. So let me get this straight. Basically, all of your evidence is speculation, and you don't have one single bit of solid data to back up your claim. Did I get that right? Erm, Fact: Chris Hecker did work in many senior / hi profile positions Fact: Such people don't do that without understanding politics Fact: Invited speakers to events often prepare for events they speak at Fact: Chris Hecker researched term art in x360/ps3/wii official sites Fact: EA has until recently devoted least resources to Wii of the 3 current consoles (x360, ps3, wii) Fact: EA has poor financials in recent quarters. Fact: Large companies with weak financials tend to not like making additional investment Fact: Hecker made a retraction. Most agree it was at behest of his employer (EA/Maxis) Fact: People told to say something can be told to say something totally opposite (ie. Tony Snow) Theory: Chris Hecker made original statement at behest of EA Reformatted for clarity, so what's your point? There is ample evidence listed. Plenty of fertile grounds for the theory. I might not have Halloween papers, but plenty of evidence to support motive. Where is your evidence for believing otherwise?
That really doesn't make much sense though. The best way for EA to improve their financials is to sell more games. The Wii is a way to sell more games. For them to state this and increase Wii support dramatically, while at the same time telling their employees to give the system bad press so that it won't do as well, and consequently hurt EA Wii game sales would be just plain weird. I think you're really overcomplicating things here. The most simple, practical and obvious conclusion to draw is that his opinion is that the Wii is a poor console from a Dev standpoint and that Nintendo doesn't do enough to foster gaming as an art form. The Subsequent retraction of those statements are because the company he works for has much to gain with the Wii.



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stof said: I think you're really overcomplicating things here. The most simple, practical and obvious conclusion to draw is that his opinion is that the Wii is a poor console from a Dev standpoint and that Nintendo doesn't do enough to foster gaming as an art form. The Subsequent retraction of those statements are because the company he works for has much to gain with the Wii.
I would say it is much, much simpler than anyone would state ... Some developers get into the industry because they're really interested in what can be done with state of the art graphics, physics and AI; Jon Carmack would probably be the most famous of these people. They would probably dislike the Wii because it is not an improvement in anything that they care about. The reality is that there are tons of reasons why people become developers, and the super-technical ones are in the minority.



The idea of EA not takeing risks is exactly the point. It's called multiplatform... which as funny as it is, is what has been killing EA.



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auroragb said: Sintinel said:Oh, well I was unaware of that. So let me get this straight. Basically, all of your evidence is speculation, and you don't have one single bit of solid data to back up your claim. Did I get that right? Erm, Fact: Chris Hecker did work in many senior / hi profile positions Fact: Such people don't do that without understanding politics Fact: Invited speakers to events often prepare for events they speak at Fact: Chris Hecker researched term art in x360/ps3/wii official sites Fact: EA has until recently devoted least resources to Wii of the 3 current consoles (x360, ps3, wii) Fact: EA has poor financials in recent quarters. Fact: Large companies with weak financials tend to not like making additional investment Fact: Hecker made a retraction. Most agree it was at behest of his employer (EA/Maxis) Fact: People told to say something can be told to say something totally opposite (ie. Tony Snow) Theory: Chris Hecker made original statement at behest of EA Reformatted for clarity, so what's your point? There is ample evidence listed. Plenty of fertile grounds for the theory. I might not have Halloween papers, but plenty of evidence to support motive. Where is your evidence for believing otherwise?
FACT: EA bought company to make only Wii games http://www.gamespot.com/news/6162544.html FACT: EA is not weak financially http://finance.yahoo.com/q/is?s=ERTS&annual



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FACT: EA has recently dramatically increased Wii support FACT: EA officials have stated dissapointment in PS3 software sales hehe, FACT:ing is fun.



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EA's release a lot of quality Wii titles: Madden and Blur are some of the best thought-out control implimentations, Wii Sims and Tiger Woods will be *huge* sellers, the Godfather and MoH ports looks promising. Ubisoft on Wii has been very over-rated IMHO: Rayman and Red Steel were very smart launch games and have done big numbers, but most everything else is lazy shovelware (EA seems to have a much better handle on how to Wii-ify a title) The big cross-platform studios have a leg-up on Wii because they're familiar with the GC architecture where a lot of smaller houses that have been very Sony-focused are starting from square one.