Sometime I wonder what is the point of starting this whole graphics argument thing all over again.

X360 fanboys will never see the difference between killzone2 and whatever x360 game because they are blinded by their fanboyism.

Even MS who makes the console can more or less own up and say "yeah, Killzone2 is graphically better than anything we have done but we can still compete and create similar", but the fanboys still can't, blinded by x360 love.

PS3 fanboys somehow see a huge gap in graphics between K2 and Gears.

IMO Killzone2 is graphically superior to gears and yes I have played both.

To answer your question I call to mind 2 things.

1) The ps3 is suppose to be hard to develop for and the x360 far easier.

2) it came out over a year and months after the x360.

Which do you think have the greater potential to produce better graphics looking forward?

BTW: I AM NOT A FANBOY.

As far as graphics go, Killzone 2 really is a few steps ahead of any other console game out at the moment. Perhaps in terms of physics aswell. (I've yet to see another game where you can throw a grenade at an enemy and the force of the impact will knock the enemies head back like he was punched.)

'Vastly superior' is perhaps overdoing it.

I was playing some COD4 the other day then I switched over to KZ2. The difference in graphics between the two titles is huge. In 2 years the bar has been raised to an entirely new level.

It makes me excited about what's coming next.

We should get a really good look at what both consoles are capable of doing by the end of 2009, after that I'll give you my opinion lol

I think exclusives will look slightly better on PS3 while multiplatforms will remain slightly better on X360 but none of the diffrences will be noticable for people not obsessed with graphics.

A few PS3 exclusives which take an eternity to develop, lots of delays, look impressive and superior to the XBox 360 games. The PS3 exclusive games are tech demo games. The exclusive PS3 games such as Uncharted, MGS 4, Kill Zone 2 are released like one game every 6 or 9 months. So a long wait in between standout PS3 exclusive games. UnCharted 2 will arrive late October 2009, around 8 months after Killzone 2 launched. God of War 3 is due out March 2010. Gran Turismo 5 will be out later in 2010.

Ironically the multi-platform games still perform and look better on XBox 360. The PS3 games need a lot longer to get them to look better by glossy pre-rendered CG graphics in PS3 games. Multi-platform titles have to be rushed out quickly onto market to keep up with consumers demand for new product.

PS3 main problem which  is adversely impacted on its software sales is the ludicrous price for PS3 console that has remained at $400 for around 18 months and counting. A high price to pay for an entry level PS3 console. A rival current generation gaming machine that provides 90% of the same experience is found elsewhere at half the price of PS3.

The point is that we've reached diminishing returns in graphics. And not just about PS3 vs 360.

Even the most powerful graphical beast of a game (Crysis) won't look noticeably better to an untrained eye than the best looking ps360 games. My gf is more likely to appreciate the fact that it renders well beaches and luscious vegetation than if it employs object-based motion blur or HDR/iris effects.

The nitpicking is for us game geeks, exactly like dissecting each film scene composition and lighting is for movie buffs and students. Thus when we say "noticeably" we mean for us, though the rest of the world lives by different rules.

on that note Tekken is awesome. Devil kazuya plz.

I disagree with this, because "diminishing returns" is always relative. Now, I don't discount the fact that we do oftentimes place too much emphasis on graphics, but every generation shows advances that are easily distinguishable from the generation before. Every step of the way over the past 15 years, I've bought the latest technology thinking, 'Damn, could the graphics EVER get any better than THIS!"

Yup, they always do, usually in six to twelve months! I particularly remember being floored by the "realism" of Madden 2001 when the PS2 launched. Game doesn't look so hot anymore.

Ten years from now systems will be able to render so much more architecturally, and I think facial animations especially will improve to such a huge degree, that the tech will make Killzone 2 look silly. Wash. Rinse. Repeat ten years after that, and then ten years after THAT ... etc ...

I think its evened out for the most part now, espeially since some developers (EA) are starting to make the PS3 their lead console (which makes sense as the PS3 and 360 versions end up pretty close porting FROM the PS3 rather than TO the PS3)  I think as this gen progresses it will basically come down to what exclusives you like better.  As for graphics I think that Alan Wake might open some eyes graphically and Heavy Rain has the potential to beat KZ2.  And Uncharted 2 is my most anticpated game because of its colors schemes

This was a bit incoherent... what was the point?

That big exclusives are few and far inbetween? True for all consoles, the PS3 is getting more of them at this point though.

That multi-platform games perform better on the 360? Sweeping generalization there. Most of the big multiplatforms are mixed bags (GTAIV has better filters on PS3, better AA and framerate on 360. Fallout 3 has better textures on PS3, better framerate on 360) and we still have to evaluate the cases where PS3 is the lead target (FFXIII, Tekken6)

Price? Seriously offtopic.

Plus "90% of the same experience at half the price"? The other current generation gaming machine will offer me 0% of the experience if I want to watch my BR movies and 0% of the experience of playing my current library of PS3 games (KZ2, MGS4, LBP, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword, R&C). Just to say that I don't know what "same experience" was supposed to mean.