I hope you realize that out of all the things you said about the PS3, there is only the lowering of the price and the release of Gran Turismo 5 that would have any effect on the hardware at all.

 so your trying to tell me blue ray hasnt sold any consoles and that sony put it in the ps3 for no reason :p lmao!

Those are all very good points.

The Big ones for PS3 are price drop and AAA exclusives (GoW3/GT5)

Sony is 1st place in my book, why? They bring me the best games.

I don't think the niche-appeal console is going to be getting any sort of lead on the console that went for extreme mainstream appeal. Even if every single dedicated gamer decided to get a PS3 in the next 3 to 5 years, the numbers would still be highly in favor of the Wii, thanks to mainstream gamers. It's that inescapable conclusion which made PC gamers in the late 1980s foam with rage as the NES clobbered the C64 and Amiga in sales: there's always more of "them" than there are of "us".

Thats nice smashed, have a cookie.

I think by now its very easy to say this gen is over for sony.  Oh well theres always next time...if there  is.

Even a thread about sony winning fails; what makes you think sony can do better?

stop making threads about how sony is "destined" to be in first place at all times. It's a fairy tale.

Who are you nostradamus? How do you know what's going to happen in years time? The gen is over when it's over, stop it with the smartass comments. There will be a "next time" for Sony, you'd be stupid to think there wouldn't be.

 For somebody who is accusing another of being overly assuming, doesn't it strike you as just a bit ironic to say "there will be a next time for Sony, you'd be stupid to think there wouldn't be"? That just strikes me as a case of the pot calling the kettle black.

 Anyway, while we have the delightful truism that nobody knows the future, we also have the counterpoint to that, this little thing we call "pattern recognition". The more intricate the understanding of a pattern, the more feasible it is that you can predict the future. This is the basis of every scientific field in existence, as it so happens. And yes, as it so happens, there are known patterns in market behavior. Quite a lot of them, in fact, even a fair few specific to this industry. And one of the patterns, which you seem to be denying here, is that there has never been a "miracle comeback" for products which fail to obtain market dominance within their first two years on the market.

 Learn the known the patterns behind a system before you accuse others of being prophets.

Who are you nostradamus? How do you know what's going to happen in years time?

Nintendo is going to outsell Sony.  By a lot.  Don't need a crystal ball or let my blood run into my plate of chicken bones to see that coming.

The gen is over when it's over, stop it with the smartass comments.

This gen IS over.  Nintendo won, most sold software, hardware and profit. 

Oh I forgot internet forum. 

""Sure Sony can come back they just need a price drop, grand turismo and that virus that'll kill all Nintendo employees and Wii potential customers.  Just.  Wait.  For.  The.  Virus.""

There will be a "next time" for Sony, you'd be stupid to think there wouldn't be.

Who are you nostradamus? How do you know what's going to happen in years time?