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thermal7 on 27 August 2007
naznatips said:
Well, what thread are you talking about Killzone? I'm looking through recent topics and not seeing anything insulting or attacking the PS3.

 http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=6144&start=0

@ChichiriMuyo

I agree that moderators have to be professional to a degree, but that doesn't mean they don't have bias or that they are immune to provication.  If you think he has tresspassed, you seem to reference the him calling someone not human, then show us the thread so we can judge.  Or perhaps more approiatetly report his post.  It is hard to judge what you say when we don't have an an example with its full context (ie the thread it was posted in).



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omgwtfbbq on 27 August 2007
ps4owner said:
naznatips said:
Well, what thread are you talking about Killzone? I'm looking through recent topics and not seeing anything insulting or attacking the PS3.

Its called the Sony part of the forums you're in it all the time, along with the rest of the wii owners bashing the shit out of Sony.

The forum is called "Sony Discussion" not "Sony Fanboy land". the purpose is to discuss things Sony, it's not a sacred land where only the initiated can enter. Stop bitching about it, I don't see any Wii fans bitching when someone discusses negative things about Nintendo in the Nintendo Discussion forum.

 



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RobMate on 27 August 2007

Jeez.Jeez.Jeez. if u dont like the way this site runs then rack off.. if ioi didn't like the way his site was being managed he would change it... stop bashing the mods



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Rath on 27 August 2007
RolStoppable said:
steven787 said:
RolStoppable said:

What about saying that another person has no soul? Is this never appropriate as well?

Because that's what the head mod (stof) said last night about another person.


I think this is some type of international cultural or language difference. In the US, in casual context, that just is not any worse than saying "Oh, you devil" or "I almost died...insert some thing here like: when the party goers popped out and said "surprise".


Well, I called stof having no soul as well which later on earned me a temporary ban...


 Yeah that was awful harsh, worst 2 minutes of your life or so I hear.



ChichiriMuyo on 27 August 2007
RolStoppable said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Rath said:
Moderators arent robots, Im almost certain that BK was saying that in a humorous and exaggerated manner. Its kind of lime me saying, "You didnt like ocarina? And you call yourself a human!".
Taking comments to seriously and out of context doesnt make the person who made them a poor moderator.

Human or not, he's here to set an example. When you throw out blanket terms that cover thousands of members/potential members of a site that is percievable as an attack against them you're setting a pretty shitty example. It doesn't matter if he meant it as a joke, because it didn't come off as a joke. It didn't sound humorous at all, it sounded like he has a low opion of me simply because I think Half_Life isn't worth my time.

That's like saying GBallZach is an exmplary member of these forums. You're insulting everyone on this site by even suggesting that Ben is representing the attitude that is expected of VGcharts members. If that's the attitude the average VGC member should present you may as well ban me now, because this place is going to turn into a shit factory faster than you can cry "KwaadGBallZachHus."

It is NEVER appropriate to say another person is not a Human Being. Never.


What about saying that another person has no soul? Is this never appropriate as well?

Because that's what the head mod (stof) said last night about another person. 

Not everyone believes in souls, and there is no actual evidence to support the existance of such a thing.  Human beings are real.  There is a massive difference in the two.  If someone said I have no soul, then I would happily accept their statement as it is a wholly believable thing and far less insulting even if it weren't true. 
There is, however, no doubt that I am a human being.  To even suggest otherwise is insulting.  It doesn't matter what my culture or beliefs are (to those who mention it), such things simply should not be said.  I can't even imagine a group of people who are willing to accept being told that they deserve so little respect.
Again, some of you think he meant it as a joke but there is nothing to indicate it is so.  This is the internet, there is no tone of voice, and if he doesn't want to insult people he shouldn't say insulting things.  I can't see a smirk on his face, I can't hear a mischievious tone in his voice.  All I can see are the words: "you aren't as good as me becasue you don't agree with me."  And I've seen that in plenty of his posts in the past. 
At this point it's not just insulting my intelligence to let this go unnoticed, it really is a challenge to my status as a human being.


You do not have the right to never be offended.

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Ishy on 27 August 2007

i don't see a lot of that...



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Just_Ben on 27 August 2007

Wuhu. Here comes the hate. Ok, first of: Neither Ben, nore cklmb or kber81 are fanboys. Calling them that shows that people can't pick up a normal argument if they are confronted with one. Every of those have their point of view, and they should be allowed to have one. You can like them or not, but a fanboy is somebody who goes aggressive without reason, and do not argue more repeating the same assumption without laying the reasons down for that assumptions. You can like or dislike the people mentioned or their point of view, but the hell don't call everybody a fanboy just because they do not agree with you.

For the topic. This forum has a for me a problem. There are people who seems to like to fight each other, over and over again, with just repeating the same assumptions and arguments. If you post in the middle of a thread with a point of view that could be somehow reasonable or you make a long post, really explaining your point of view, you get no replies. You just be ignored, because it seems the reasonable people ignore the thread caused by the war in it, and the people who's fighting in the thread don't bother to pick it up, because it is a voice of sanity.






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Rath on 27 August 2007

I still think your taking it way to seriously chichi, pm him and ask him if he meant it as a joke. He certainly didnt mean it as a challenge to your status as a human being and even suggesting such a thing is preposterous, just because there is no tone of voice or expression on the internet does not mean there is no such thing as humour.

As far as I can see he did not mean it as an insulting thing, you just took it as one =

Personally I couldnt care if BK rang up my house and told me I wasnt a human being (apart from being extremely worried about how he got my phone number and why the hell he was standing on my front lawn) largely because I wouldnt take him seriously and I consider my status as a human being way above being challenged.

 

 Edit: In any case lets leave it here Chichi, we arent contributing to the thread with this argument. 



diamuerto on 27 August 2007
ChichiriMuyo said:
RolStoppable said:
ChichiriMuyo said:
Rath said:
Moderators arent robots, Im almost certain that BK was saying that in a humorous and exaggerated manner. Its kind of lime me saying, "You didnt like ocarina? And you call yourself a human!".
Taking comments to seriously and out of context doesnt make the person who made them a poor moderator.

Human or not, he's here to set an example. When you throw out blanket terms that cover thousands of members/potential members of a site that is percievable as an attack against them you're setting a pretty shitty example. It doesn't matter if he meant it as a joke, because it didn't come off as a joke. It didn't sound humorous at all, it sounded like he has a low opion of me simply because I think Half_Life isn't worth my time.

That's like saying GBallZach is an exmplary member of these forums. You're insulting everyone on this site by even suggesting that Ben is representing the attitude that is expected of VGcharts members. If that's the attitude the average VGC member should present you may as well ban me now, because this place is going to turn into a shit factory faster than you can cry "KwaadGBallZachHus."

It is NEVER appropriate to say another person is not a Human Being. Never.


What about saying that another person has no soul? Is this never appropriate as well?

Because that's what the head mod (stof) said last night about another person. 

Not everyone believes in souls, and there is no actual evidence to support the existance of such a thing.  Human beings are real.  There is a massive difference in the two.  If someone said I have no soul, then I would happily accept their statement as it is a wholly believable thing and far less insulting even if it weren't true. 
There is, however, no doubt that I am a human being.  To even suggest otherwise is insulting.  It doesn't matter what my culture or beliefs are (to those who mention it), such things simply should not be said.  I can't even imagine a group of people who are willing to accept being told that they deserve so little respect.
Again, some of you think he meant it as a joke but there is nothing to indicate it is so.  This is the internet, there is no tone of voice, and if he doesn't want to insult people he shouldn't say insulting things.  I can't see a smirk on his face, I can't hear a mischievious tone in his voice.  All I can see are the words: "you aren't as good as me becasue you don't agree with me."  And I've seen that in plenty of his posts in the past. 
At this point it's not just insulting my intelligence to let this go unnoticed, it really is a challenge to my status as a human being.

Stop trolling.



diamuerto on 27 August 2007

Can you use your intelligence to see if that was a joke. Wait let me help.....