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i just ignore all the games that i dont want and go back to playing with my pinatas whenever i feel sad



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I don't get what you're talking about... Dev's don't wanna take risks. And I don't see any Wii sports clones..... Wanna know what happens when a dev takes risks and it doesn't end up well??? Mirror's Edge. Sure there will be new idea's like Ace Attorney and such from 3rd parties, but most of what we see will always seem like the "same old stuff" because what ever works is what will mainly be used.



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pap64 said:

NOTE: I don't want to start a console war thread. I aim to gain opinions in order to see if my thoughts are justified. I want people to answer this honestly, calmly and respectfully.

Anyways, I am a big Wii fan. I enjoy a lot of games and without a shadow of a doubt  it is my main console this generation. But one thing that really bugs me a bit is how third parties seem to try and outdo Nintendo at their own games and try to make Wii Sports clones and Party games, because these saw success on the system.

I also own a 360 and I really like it, despite technical issues. I love the features, the XBL Marketplace and many of its games. But my pet peeve is that just as the Wii is flooded by would be Wii Sports follow ups the 360 library has mainly HD titles that try to market to the same fans that loved Halo and Gears of Wars, labeling the console as the "FPS HD Machine".

My question to you is; Does ANYONE feel annoyed by this?

The 360, as well as the PS3, are technological behemoths. Developers could easily create worlds, ideas and concepts that could only be made on these machines. Yet, they seem to be stuck trying to be the next Halo, and follow the same old archetypes, creating drab worlds, ideas and concepts.

I would love to see more variety on these consoles. I am well aware that MS is trying to widen the selection with games like Viva Pinata, Scene It, Banjo and many arcade games. But third parties have yet to tear away from this.

So does anyone feel the same way? Does anyone wish that game concepts would be more varied?

Again, don't want to start flame wars/

The game concepts are more varied. What system have you been playing? Did you even bother with an Xbox?

What exactly do you want before you decide it's a 'next-gen' game? What did the PS2/Xbox generation do that the PS1 couldn't, other than prettier textures?

I think there've been a good bit of innovative, gorgeous games on the 360 that have been 'next-gen' to me:

  • Condemned: Gorgeous 1st-gen X360 IP. Lighting effects were stellar, and is one of the scariest games I've ever played. Haven't tried it on my 50" Plasma w/ Surround Sound because I've heard it's just too scary.
  • Oblivion: Some say it's a step down from Morrowind due to certain design choices. Whatever. It's still one of the most gorgeous games out there.
  • Dead Rising: hundreds of zombies onscreen at once. Fun, open-world gameplay. Definately can't complain about what the game had. Again, 1st-gen game.
  • Blue Dragon: Although some malign the game, the fact is, you cannot find a more gorgeous JRPG on the market. The graphics are indeed 'cute', but they stand as some of the best on the 360. It's also a pretty fun JRPG, and has that 16-bit feel with the updated graphics.
  • Gears of War: Yes, it's a TPS, but a great one. Contains a lot of elements that can only be described as 'fun' - chainsaw guns, roadie run (great from a paintball player's perspective), and incredible graphics. 
  • Mass Effect: Ever walk in the Presidium in HD? It's an awe-inspiring experience. The cutscenes are gorgeous, and makes you feel like your in a hyper-interactive movie.
  • Tales of Vesperia: Like Blue Dragon, it's incredibly gorgeous. Some times, I forget the in-game cutscenes aren't from someone's anime collection. Solid game too.
  • Fallout 3: Very awesome, as was Oblivion. Incredible dialogue, great VATS combat, very huge gameworld too.

I guess the real question is: What is next-gen? What makes a game revoutionary? I think that some of the things in Left 4 Dead (AI director), Fallout 3 (VATS), Tales of Vesperia (cell-shading) and other games seem pretty good. And we're only half way through this gen, so there's still plenty of time to find out what's still possible on the 360 and PS3, in terms of what you can do from a performance standpoint.

And on the 'same genre' bit - Have you ever bothered with an XBLA game? Braid, Castle Crashers, Arkadian Warriors, and many others beg to say that the 360 has a wide treasure trove of genres. Of course FPSes are going to do well, but the 360 has a ton of every genre possible other than platformers...And even then, you got 4-5 good ones to choose from that are semi-exclusive. Outside of platformers, the 360 still has the best lineup of FPS/TPS, Racers, RPGs, Sports, RTS, and such. What more do you want?

 



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i dont won a 360 but i do own a ps3..
the reason they dont move away from it is because the base isn't there for those types of games..

many of the people who buy cod 4 on ps3 arent going to buy sceene it..
the same goes for the wii though a lot of mom who buy wii play or wii fit are never going to but cod 4..
two different markets..

this isnt to say that the systems dont get she casual or hardcore games either but it isnt to the extent of the opposite consoles.



hello how are you.

I believe there is a nice variety of games on the 360//I don't look at it as a "HD FPS system"//its expanding its library considerably//platformers, JRPG's, some party games (Scene It, Lips, DDR Universe 3)//this system is fine when it comes to providing games across all genres//the Wii is sucking in the JRPG department for right now, PS3 same thing//



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pap64 said:

The 360, as well as the PS3, are technological behemoths. Developers could easily create worlds, ideas and concepts that could only be made on these machines. Yet, they seem to be stuck trying to be the next Halo,

 

 I agree with this one totally. Lots of games just want to be the next Halo. There are many exceptions like Fallout 3, Bioshock, etc which are totally new and great though.



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There are a lot of non FPS on the 360. People just need to spread there genre tastes a bit



I dont know... Id take an oversaturation of "good" HD action games any day before I'd like to see only a few good releases a year.

I agree that it seems like a lot of publishers are making FPS games only because it is popular to do so and will make them money...but is that any different from any timeframe with gaming?

Also, while a someone who doesn't spend time with HD action games may see Bioshock, Halo and Condemned as a same game...i assure you, they are drastically different, even if they are all controlled in the first person perspective and let you hold a gun.



Seriously, do you own a 360? Have you ever tried any of its XBLA content? It has so many fun games. Drop your wii for a few days go get you some M$ points and try out some of those great games. You can download the demos free and only buy the ones you like.

Yes the 360 does have a lot of FPS's but that isn't all it has. And I personally get tired of people bring this same lame argument.



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indeed, i get very tired of seeing so many generic fps, and unospired games, and games that truly make an effort to try and stand out, being bashed for having some flaws due to the facts that they are building their on path rather than following someone else's

in fact this reminds of the game Merchants of Brooklyn, wish clearly doesnt feature great graphics, gets very harsh critics by most people, for not looking likeso good, yet it's the only recent fps i cant think that actually seems like they were trying to do something diferent