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For consoles it's absolutely disastrous so far. Especially here in Europe where the two Tales aren't released (yet?).

So all I played was Lost Odyssey (which I loved). Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn is awesome as well, but that's a SRPG. Star Ocean 4 will be next and after that the Wii will have to deliver with stuff like Little King's Story, Arc Rise Fantasia, Kizuna and Muramasa before FFXIII, because there's NOTHING on the HD consoles until that.

But on DS it's great. Sure most are remakes, but great ones. FF4, DQ4, Chrono Trigger etc and TWEWY is a great game, SUikoden is coming.



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you people really need to look at the sales number of JRPG last gen.....the only ones that really sold over mil are FF, DQ, and Pokemon series...yeah couple other but not much....WRPG just gained a bit of popularity and JRPG's sales compared to WRPG aren't so great which is making people think JRPG are actually losing popularity or JRPG fans are moving to WRPG....

let's give some example....tales series...only ONE sold over a million.....the rest mostly sold around 300-500K area....tales series is still considered to be good...

.Hack series....have not sold more than 400K per game...but yet it's still a good JRPG and no one ever said it was a failure of a JRPG

Persona series....highest selling was Persona 4...sold 500K....and was considered awesome JRPG...and never was it considered to be a failure in sales area....

but this gen i hear people talking about LO, BD, VC, etc all having low sales and what not....yet they seem just about the same sales level as last gen....the only difference between this gen and last gen is that there isn't as much quantity of JRPG as last gen...



Yes, and if it were not for the DS i doubt an RPG only fan would even adopt the current gen consoles.



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KLucifer said:
you people really need to look at the sales number of JRPG last gen.....the only ones that really sold over mil are FF, DQ, and Pokemon series...yeah couple other but not much....WRPG just gained a bit of popularity and JRPG's sales compared to WRPG aren't so great which is making people think JRPG are actually losing popularity or JRPG fans are moving to WRPG....

let's give some example....tales series...only ONE sold over a million.....the rest mostly sold around 300-500K area....tales series is still considered to be good...

.Hack series....have not sold more than 400K per game...but yet it's still a good JRPG and no one ever said it was a failure of a JRPG

Persona series....highest selling was Persona 4...sold 500K....and was considered awesome JRPG...and never was it considered to be a failure in sales area....

but this gen i hear people talking about LO, BD, VC, etc all having low sales and what not....yet they seem just about the same sales level as last gen....the only difference between this gen and last gen is that there isn't as much quantity of JRPG as last gen...

wrong most tales games sell around 600k to 900k this gen is just bad

 



Onyxmeth said:
The said:
izaaz101 said:
Pristine20 said:

 

 

Charming games, let's see how they compare against RPGs from the first 3 years of the previous generation, starting with the Dreamcast in 2000, until beginning of 2003. I'll list only "traditional jRPGs, so no games like Phantasy Star Online.

Skies of Arcadia (2000)

Grandia 2 (2000)

Final Fantasy X (2001)

Dark Cloud (2001)

Shadow Hearts (2001)

Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland (2001)

Suikoden 3 (2002)

Kingdom Hearts (2002) (I think someone in this thread loves this one)

Wild Arms 3 (2002)

I think I could leave out the beginning of 2003 and it wouldn't be neccessary. But on 2003 with got:

Dark Cloud 2 (feb 2003)

Xenosaga: Episode 1 (feb 2003)

Breath of Fire: Dragon Quarter (feb 2003) 

.hack Infection Part 1 (feb 2003)

 

And a little later if we say in November 2003 last generation was 3 years old (starting on November 2000) : 

Disgaea: Hour of Darkness (August 2003)

Final Fantasy X-2 (November 2003)

 

NOTE: I'm only listing games ranked 75 and over on Metacritic. I'm also just listing games on home consoles. These are all JRPGs. You should notice all of them except for Grandia and Skies of Arcadia are all exclusives for PlayStation 2.

 

So yes, this generation, which is a little over 3 years old, has undeniably sucked for JRPGs. Unless anyone here can come up with a list that can match or even reach the knees of the list I provided above. 

 

If you're going to make a comparison, then at least get your dates right. The Dreamcast was released November 27th 1998 in Japan, September 9th 1999 in America and October 14th 1999 in Europe. At best you're a year off. However, we're talking about games that come from Japan, so inactuality you're two years off.

Here's what's left of your list. I'm not going to look anything up myself to see if it's complete.

Skies of Arcadia (2000)

Grandia 2 (2000)

Final Fantasy X (2001)

Dark Cloud (2001)

Shadow Hearts (2001)

Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland (2001)

Not bad, but not nearly as impressive.

 

Yeah, nitpicking didn't make a difference anyway since we can just look at JRPGS available by YEAR then. Sure the Dreamcast was in a hurry and went ahead, but then what other JRPGs we had from late 98, 99, and the first 3 quarters of 2000 huh? That would make the list even more impressive than any list you could come up with from late 2005- late 2008(and also we should include all JRPGs from handhelds in thos 3 years 98-2001) 

 



I am starting to hate jrpg:s. I've played a lot of them and only one has been good. Others are just pure crap. :/



The said:
Onyxmeth said:

If you're going to make a comparison, then at least get your dates right. The Dreamcast was released November 27th 1998 in Japan, September 9th 1999 in America and October 14th 1999 in Europe. At best you're a year off. However, we're talking about games that come from Japan, so inactuality you're two years off.

Here's what's left of your list. I'm not going to look anything up myself to see if it's complete.

Skies of Arcadia (2000)

Grandia 2 (2000)

Final Fantasy X (2001)

Dark Cloud (2001)

Shadow Hearts (2001)

Harvest Moon: Save the Homeland (2001)

Not bad, but not nearly as impressive.

 

Yeah, nitpicking didn't make a difference anyway since we can just look at JRPGS available by YEAR then. Sure the Dreamcast was in a hurry and went ahead, but then what other JRPGs we had from late 98, 99, and the first 3 quarters of 2000 huh? That would make the list even more impressive than any list you could come up with from late 2005- late 2008(and also we should include all JRPGs from handhelds in thos 3 years 98-2001) 

 

Don't sit there and blame me for "nitpicking". You were considerably off target with your timelines, by two years. That's a very significant advantage for last gen to have five years of RPGs against the 3 years for this gen. Excuse me for calling you out on it.

If you want to do all you just said then be my guest. Just do it fairly for both gens and not just to fill an agenda of yours. I'm not sure why you would add in all the 5th gen RPGs during the Dreamcast's timeline since they are a part of their own generation, but I suppose you can do it if you think it's more accurate. Just remember that means everything on the PS2 and GBA following the DS launch then counts towards this gen since that again would be fair.

 



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the ds has tons of great JRPGS, old and new.

as for the other consoles, yes, this is the worst gen for them. for everything really, other than shooters, IMO...