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Okay... The monopoly discussion... Monopolies are generally bad, but in the games market, there is constant upheaval. There is always something new around the corner, Moore's Law always pushing the next thing our way, whether its massive graphical and power improvements or whole new interfaces. Though the strict 6-year cycle is somewhat unhealthy, its not feasible to go more than about 8-10 years before a new format arises which is more powerful, more streamlined, better designed, more capable, more accessable, etc, and by leaps and bounds. And so monopolies are fleeting, everyone knows it, and companies have to stay on their toes or else miss the next big thing. Second... Some in here are giving the PS3 every benefit of every doubt... 'Nuff said about that... Third... Gamecube launched for less than Wii did, and it didn't sell like hotcakes... It had a good launch in North America, and then it crawled to 20 million sold. So its not just the price which is causing Wii to sell: people are genuinely interested in games like Wii Sports.



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

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Louie said: Topic: I guess even if the Wii will sell most the competition can still sell 30 to 50 million consoles each. You can see it with DS and PSP: DS is selling like crazy but PSP is far from struggling it could manage to sell 15 million units in Japan alone and 20 million in the USA. So could the PS3. I guess the PS3 will sell about 50 million units worldwide till 2011 if Wií wins this generation. That would still be a decent number.
Whatever happened to the final console sales prediction thread? I think I finally have a good guess to post... Putting the PS3 at 48 million WW, btw...



"[Our former customers] are unable to find software which they WANT to play."
"The way to solve this problem lies in how to communicate what kind of games [they CAN play]."

Satoru Iwata, Nintendo President. Only slightly paraphrased.

Don't discount how it draws players into the game. You feel like *your* bludgeoning that monster with a sword, rather than pressing a button to tell Link to do it. The bow is even more effective at drawing players into the game-world. This is especially true of first-person Wii games. E.g. in COD3, jabbing the Wiimote out to crack the German with your rifle is an a whole other level of visceral joy vs. taapping a button to do the same: it also becomes much more instinctive (i.e. there's a button for the same move on Wii, but what kind of poor-sport would use it!?! )



Nobody forced Sony to price out almost everyone with a $600(I wanna say $500 but 20 gb units are apparently being phased out) console.



PS3 WILL SELL ALOT MORE THAN WII. I LIKE MY PS3 BETTER, AND EVEN BETTER THAN MY WIFE. PS3s GONNA WIN



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KwaadPS3ROCKSWII said: PS3 WILL SELL ALOT MORE THAN WII. I LIKE MY PS3 BETTER, AND EVEN BETTER THAN MY WIFE. PS3s GONNA WIN
Alias's aren't cool. Especially when they're for trolling purposes. This is your warning



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

stof said: KwaadPS3ROCKSWII said: PS3 WILL SELL ALOT MORE THAN WII. I LIKE MY PS3 BETTER, AND EVEN BETTER THAN MY WIFE. PS3s GONNA WIN Alias's aren't cool. Especially when they're for trolling purposes. This is your warning
That's not me. EDIT: You have my 100% approval to ban it. Get wii to check the IP, and cross refrence it. It's not me.



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Kwaad said: That's not me. .
Oh I know. It's pretty obviously someone trying to troll you. But hey, everybody gets a warning. Now that he's been warned, if he tries it again I ban the Alias.



I'm a mod, come to me if there's mod'n to do. 

Chrizum is the best thing to happen to the internet, Period.

Serves me right for challenging his sales predictions!

Bet with dsisister44: Red Steel 2 will sell 1 million within it's first 365 days of sales.

stof said: Kwaad said: That's not me. . Oh I know. It's pretty obviously someone trying to troll you. But hey, everybody gets a warning. Now that he's been warned, if he tries it again I ban the Alias.
ok. Just saying my side of the story. If I was to create a alias with Kwaad in the name it would be. KwaadPS3sux lol. Ok. I'm gonna go back to being good now. :P



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You guys probabaly know all this, but Sony spent a LOT of extra money including Blu-Ray and it cost something like 900 or something like that to produce. By comparison, Xbox360 costs about 600 to make. They are selling at like 400, so they're losing 200 with every console they're selling. This leaves Sony in a bind. If they match MS and sell at 400, then it will take maybe 2 or 3 extra yesrs to make back their money (from game sales and also from falling prices of technology). Even as it stands now, people need to spend 300 bucks in games/blu-ray movies in order for sony to just break even. So it's either release at a high price and not go into as much debt, or release at a low price and take risk not making back your money before the next generation comes. So to spin this back to "console wars" that's what Sony has to consider when it wants to weigh price points/profits vs. marketshare