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TP had harder arcade bits, puzzle wise they are about the same. TP is much bigger and takes longer.



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The bosses in TP were much easier than oot.



Just_Ben said:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/94740

... "Markt analyst see us as deciding driving power for the fast development in the market" ...

... "The demographic change gives the gaming industry new challenges, says Fakesh. 54 % of the German population is over 40. Exactly here Nintendo has reached new targed audiences. Between 2002 and 2006 the people over 40 buying a Nintendo DS doubled. With new games for the Wii and the DS the company want to reach other target audiences with more woman and older. The average age in the Nintendo world is already clear higher than on the other consoles, says Fakesch. With the Wii, the company has "With distance the best release" of all. "

 

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Personal Opinion:

Ok, Nintendo you are successful. Don't brag about it so much. Pride goes before a fall. Just be successful and continue to be so.

 

 


"We are the engine of the gaming industry" sounds arrogant and I don't think is true.  They certainly are expanding the market and driving innovation.  I would say they are an engine and a big one, but there are lots of others.  For example the new graphics engine for id's new game rage allows graphics designers much freer control allowing them to make textures at any resolution they please and then place them like crazy over a map, all at no performance hit which was previously not possible.  Such an inovation which will eventually spread in time to all games and will drive more detailed levels. 

 But anyway, I don't blame them because this quote seems to be your paraphrasing "Markt analyst see us as deciding driving power for the fast development in the market"?  Firstly it is not we, it is market analysts.  According to this sentence they are not claiming anything but stating others beliefs.  Secondly it is true and analytical without the superior feel of the thread title.  There may be other engines like id, but they are not driving expansion of the market.  There is a big difference between the engine of the game industry and the deciding driving power for the fast development in the market, which is totally true.

 Did you paraphrase to get "We are the engine of the gaming industry" or did they actually say this?



What TP lacked was not a sense of difficulty but a sense of intimidation. Furthermore the game lacked a sense of true accomplishment that you got with progressing through OOT, TP felt more linear and less sandboxish as OOT was. While the bosses were easier in TP, they were only easier in that it was easier to figure out how to beat them, once you'd figured out how to do it, they were no harder in either game.



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There's no arrogance in the original. A word for word translation of the key passages (yes, I'm fluent in German):

"At the Games Convention, Nintendo sees itself as a motor. 'The gaming market is changing fast,' said Nintendo's German boss Bernd Fakesch one day before the official opening of Europe's biggest trade show for computer and videogames this Wednesday in Leipzig. Especially noteworthy are developments in new types of gaming and new control schemes. Market researchers characterize Nintendo as a key driving force responsible for the brisk development of the market, said Fakesch.

Demographic changes present completely new challenges for the entire gaming industry, explained Fakesch. All in all, 54 percent of the German population is already over 40 years old. It is precisely here that Nintendo's games and consoles have been able to achieve its new targets. Between 2002 and 2006 the number of people over 40 who bought a Nintendo DS have doubled. Nintendo wants to appeal to other target groups, including women and the elderly, with new titles for Nintendo's Wii and DS consoles. The average age of the Nintendo user is already much higher than other consoles, observed Fakesch."




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So many peopel to respond to, so little time for messy quoting...

Sqrl... did you like, not finish reading my post? I clearly said I want the puzzles to require thinking instead of attempting it until something eventually works. Ealrier Zeldas, LttP most especially, made you think a lot more about what you were doing, Far too often in the more recent Zelda's I've found that if I just keep doing random shit something will eventually work. I don't like that, and I think players should be expressely punished for it (by having to walk out of the room and walk back in, at least, but more is preferable).

ceres... it's OBVIOUS I'm getting smarter. The Legend of Zelda is STILL harder to complete than OoT, and I know every last secret in LoZ (okay, first quest only...). OoT is more time consuming and much less entertaining, but it's not more difficult by any means. I can beat it without ever coming close to dying, or with very few deaths on a run w/o grabbing any heart containers, but LoZ kicks my ass a few times everytime I play even when I max out hearts ASAP (I never go into the first palace with less than 5 hearts, let alone the rest of the game). And yes, this is with me knowing every secret. I know where to bomb or use fire (and where not to) and where everything I can possibly wnt is located. Still, the game actually manages to score kills on me. God forbid I talk about the second quest...

yacjuman... the original Zelda is still thebest in the series, so of course that's the one I speak of. Of course, LttP is still harder than any of the 3D Zeldas by a lot, despite being noticably easier than the original.

Sporticus... it's funny that you should say that, as TP is easily the most time consuming of the games barring, perhaps, WW and its shitty sailing. That is, in fact, what makes the game a waste of time in my opinion. They made the game long without giving it much context or difficulty. It's like masturbation when you're 50: either you've got it down to a god damned science, or you don't even bother anymore.  No doubt, this is why GameSpot gave it a controvesial 8.8.

Sure, some people are taking 30-45 mintes to figure out puzzles in TP. That indicates they made them hard, but do they make you think? For most of them the answer is "not really". Games shouldn't be about how much of their time they take away from you (which is what Zelda is in its WW and TP forms) but how much entertainment it can provide you. Making you do things jsut to consume time does not make a game good. TP, like WW, does a lot of things just to consume your time rather than actually entertain you.



You do not have the right to never be offended.

Now because there winning they think they will take over the world... sony is loosing it and are still loosing it, and nintendo is starting.



 

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leo-j said:
Now because there winning they think they will take over the world... sony is loosing it and are still loosing it, and nintendo is starting.

 "Losing", my friend.



Just_Ben said:

http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/94740

... "Markt analyst see us as deciding driving power for the fast development in the market" ...

... "The demographic change gives the gaming industry new challenges, says Fakesh. 54 % of the German population is over 40. Exactly here Nintendo has reached new targed audiences. Between 2002 and 2006 the people over 40 buying a Nintendo DS doubled. With new games for the Wii and the DS the company want to reach other target audiences with more woman and older. The average age in the Nintendo world is already clear higher than on the other consoles, says Fakesch. With the Wii, the company has "With distance the best release" of all. "


 Was there *really* a need to say that? Don't start getting cocky PLEASE!!!




leo-j said:
Now because there winning they think they will take over the world... sony is loosing it and are still loosing it, and nintendo is starting.

Spellcheck buddy, it's your friend.



“The Hardcore of the Peach is its pits. Try to get the whole fruit!”

- John Lucas

 

“Every industry is filled with the grave stones of companies who kept doing the same thing.”

- Reggie Fils-Aime

 

“You don’t play Graphics, you look at them.”

- Unknown

 

“Casual Gaming = Anything that’s not an FPS”

- Sony Fandom