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This site has ST: TOS 2.0 http://www.cbs.com/classics/star_trek/video/video.php but it is US-only. Proxy server could work for you though.

 

ill try it later, my internets a bit slow atm



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This website is ace, I'm still on genesis and I'm in bits... seriously guys go visit it. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/respect.html

God has respect for some people.
Genesis 4:4
And the Lord had respect unto Abel.

Exodus 2:25
And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.

Leviticus 26:9
For I will have respect unto you, and make your fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.

2 Kings 13:23
And the Lord was gracious unto them ... and had respect unto them, because of his covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob...

Psalm 138:6
Though the Lord be high, yet hath he respect for the lowly.

God respects no one.


Deuteronomy 10:17
For the Lord your God ... regardeth not persons.

17For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

(this text obviously disproves this "edited" quote. 2 different words do not mean the same thing.. especially in this context.)



2 Chronicles 19:7
For there is no iniquity with the Lord our God, nor respect of persons.

 7Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.

(this is saying the lord will not just save you from eternal damnation without believing in him, and trying to follow a non-wicked life. Fear mongering, yes, but true.)



Acts 10:34
God is no respecter of persons.

 33Immediately therefore I sent to thee; and thou hast well done that thou art come. Now therefore are we all here present before God, to hear all things that are commanded thee of God.

 34Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

 35But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

(I can only assume this means god does not respect the human tendancy to do horrible things. But, if you do right, he will accept you)

 

 

Romans 2:11
For there is no respect of persons with God.

8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

 9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

 10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

 11For there is no respect of persons with God.

 12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

(same as above, but also that all of the people are equal.)

 

 

 

Galatians 2:6
God accepteth no man's person.

And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage:

 5To whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

 6But of these who seemed to be somewhat, (whatsoever they were, it maketh no matter to me: God accepteth no man's person:) for they who seemed to be somewhat in conference added nothing to me:

(does not mean the same as respect, now that you see the entirety)

 

 

Ephesians 6:9
Neither is there respect of persons with him.

Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;

 7With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:

 8Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.

 9And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

 10Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

 11Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.

 12For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

(This is talking about how everybody is equal in the kingdom of heaven)

 

 

Colossians 3:25
There is no respect of persons.
 "But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons."

(You can interpret this how you want, but I believe it is saying how god doesn't respect those peoples' actions.)

 

 

1 Peter 1:17

And if ye call upon the Father, who without respect of persons, jugeth according to every man's work.

Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;

 14As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:

 15But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;

 16Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy.

 17And if ye call on the Father, who without respect of persons judgeth according to every man's work, pass the time of your sojourning here in fear:

 18Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers;

(I think this is just a really unfortunate mistranslation, or mess-up. You see god, just before this sentence you mention, saying men who worship him need to be holy, such as he. If he says he has no respect for them, then he would not have care/respect for himself either. This would go against fundamental christian principles.)

Where I got the bible passages - http://www.biblegateway.com/

Oh no, it looks like you have gotten me... Not.

Because, you see, these examples you have given have been mistranslated, and apparently that site only likes to post the bare minimum. If you post the whole thing, the situation changes dramatically in most cases.

But also, keep in mind, the king james version of the bible is very, very old. Meanings to some words have changed, and altered, in the process of translation.

The bible is a little flawed, but it doesn't change the central meaning. You have proved nothing.

Side-note:

Actually, bigjon is thinking what I was thinking

This has actually been quite educational for me.

@wessle

Yes, it comes as a suprise to me that you, a self professed person who secretly laughes at religious people, uses his opinion to try and prove some religious people wrong. Well done. Actually, this whole arguement against my faith is opinion based. Huh, sounds like the wanking the faith cock is happening both ways, with your definition. But the same goes my my debunking. Some of it is oipinion based, but when opinion VS opinions, canceling out happens. But fine, go along with your bias. I will not reply to this thread again, unless it is on a different subject. It is no use argueing with somebody who you know you will not change their opinion, as they only make you waste your time. You have already exceeded my limit of wasted time.

/MASSIVELY EPIC DEBUNKING POST

HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!! I feel better now.

EDIT: AHHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!This edit is in responce to  the Acts 10:34 accusation!!!!!

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts%2010:34;&version=78;

http://www.biblegateway.com/versions/index.php?action=getVersionInfo&vid=78&lang=2

 



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WessleWoggle said:
Strategyking92 said:
 

@wessle

Yes, it comes as a suprise to me that you, a self professed person who secretly laughes at religious people, uses his opinion to try and prove some religious people wrong. Well done. Actually, this whole arguement against my faith is opinion based. Huh, sounds like the wanking the faith cock is happening both ways, with your definition. But the same goes my my debunking. Some of it is oipinion based, but when opinion VS opinions, canceling out happens. But fine, go along with your bias. I will not reply to this thread again, unless it is on a different subject. It is no use argueing with somebody who you know you will not change their opinion, as they only make you waste your time. You have already exceeded my limit of wasted time.

/MASSIVELY EPIC DEBUNKING POST

 

 

I love you.

I want you inside me.

 

 



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WessleWoggle said:
bigjon said:
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/

I read a few chapter from Psalms Genesis, and Luke. And LOL, reading this is like trying to follow a map made by a blind man. They have no clue or understanding.

Oh the irony...

The extreme irony.

You say that site is like trying to read a map made by a blind man... I say the same about the bible. It's like trying to read a map made by spiritually blind men. They have to clue or understanding...

That's offensive to blind people by the way. Blind people are actually good at maping, they have to map out everything by muscle memory and spacial relations.

 

There is a theological term used call Illumination, it is the working of the holy spirit to show people the truth, you are spiritually dead, blind, to you the bible is nonsense and will always be, unless you allow God to work through you. God gives us a free will, and you have chosen to reject him, the Bible.

I see these arguments you give me, and really I wish it was funny, but it really makes me sad someone could be so blind. The "contridictions" you are finding in the Bible take me about 3 second to point out you are not reading it correctly. You cannot take a verse out of context, immediate or historical. I have taken classes where they have gone through and shredded all of the traditional arguments against the Bible, and usually it is a no brainer, occasion you have to go back to the greek or hebrew to get a firm answer. I have studied the Bible cover to cover, front and back, and even portion in the Ancient languages, and I can tell you this is nothing false or untrue in the Bible. Nothing, people have spent their entire live trying to find problems with the Bible, then they think they found one, only for a few years later the bible to be validated.

i could give tons of example, for 1. Belshazzar (spelling could be off) was said to have never existed becuase Herodidus (spelling?) said the last King of Babylon was Nabudidus, well the Bible says according to Daniel that Belshazzar was, so of course when all the Athiest heard this they went nuts, of course they are gonna believe a single great historion over the Bible right. Well, guess what. That found, I think it was a pillar they told the whole story you see. Belz was the Son of Nabudidus, there was trouble on the eastern front so Nab went to Ninevah, and he placed Belz as the regent of Babylon.. amazing, you would think if someone was making the story up.... they would have used Herodudus right, I might the fact Belz was ruling babylon was such an obscure thing it was forgotten... but somehow the Bible got it right... hmmm...

There are so many stories like this one too.

 



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WessleWoggle said:
Slimebeast said:
WessleWoggle said:
Strategyking92 said:

@wessle

Yes, it comes as a suprise to me that you, a self professed person who secretly laughes at religious people, uses his opinion to try and prove some religious people wrong. Well done. Actually, this whole arguement against my faith is opinion based. Huh, sounds like the wanking the faith cock is happening both ways, with your definition. But the same goes my my debunking. Some of it is oipinion based, but when opinion VS opinions, canceling out happens. But fine, go along with your bias. I will not reply to this thread again, unless it is on a different subject. It is no use argueing with somebody who you know you will not change their opinion, as they only make you waste your time. You have already exceeded my limit of wasted time.

/MASSIVELY EPIC DEBUNKING POST

 

 

I love you.

I want you inside me.

 

 

 

He has to use a condom though, I don't need any anal VD.

why, that's not disturbing :P

 



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highwaystar101 said:
This website is ace, I'm still on genesis and I'm in bits... seriously guys go visit it. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/respect.html

God has respect for some people.
Genesis 4:4
And the Lord had respect unto Abel.

Exodus 2:25
And God looked upon the children of Israel, and God had respect unto them.

Leviticus 26:9
For I will have respect unto you, and make your fruitful, and multiply you, and establish my covenant with you.

2 Kings 13:23
And the Lord was gracious unto them ... and had respect unto them, because of his covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob...

Psalm 138:6
Though the Lord be high, yet hath he respect for the lowly.


Deuteronomy 10:17
For the Lord your God ... regardeth not persons.

2 Chronicles 19:7
For there is no iniquity with the Lord our God, nor respect of persons.

Acts 10:34
God is no respecter of persons.

Romans 2:11
For there is no respect of persons with God.

Galatians 2:6
God accepteth no man's person.

Ephesians 6:9
Neither is there respect of persons with him.

Colossians 3:25
There is no respect of persons.

1 Peter 1:17
And if ye call upon the Father, who without respect of persons, jugeth according to every man's work.

Let's look into something called original translation, as well as context. It seems your random copypasta lacks it.

So let's go into this:

Most of your verses concerning God not being a respector of persons occurred in the New Testament. The reason for the dissertations of Paul and Peter (the writers of all quoted NT text) used their context showing that God did not prefer Jews over Greeks. During Jesus' earthly ministry, he focused his works entirely within Palestine, with a few visits to Samaria, but did not do much work there. Because of this, some early converts to Jesus' ministry believed that God still prefered Jews over Greeks. This was certainly not the case, and Paul + Peter were refuting that.

Let's look at the occurances concerning God not respecting people (in context):

Det 10:17 - In this section, read in context with the very next verse shows that God is not partial to a specific socio-economic class, as in V18 God 'executes Judegement for the Fatherless, and widow, and loves the stranger by giving him food and/or clothing'. This is in agreement with the Psalms 138:6 verse which says that he 'gives respect for the lowly'. Chalk this verse up to totally destroying context.

2 Chr. 19:7 - Again an 'anti-respect' of persons. The original Hebraic translation uses the word משּׂא or 'partiality'. The context explains that God does not show partiality, so the Judges should not either. Again, context shows that it's also concerning the taking of bribes to show favoritism - and that it is wrong.

Acts 10:34 - A gentile, Cornelius was converted in this chapter. At that time, many Jewish converts to Christianity thought that gentiles were lower on the totem poll, but with the conversion of Cornelius, Peter realizes that God does not show favoritism. There are plenty of scriptures supporting this view outside of the ones you've given.

Romans 2:11 - Read in context. Paul is explaining to the Jewish converts of Rome that God does not show favoritism with gentiles or Jews.

Galatians 2:6 - Similar to Romans 2:11, Paul is discussing that just because one's self may be (externally) circumsized, that does not make someone a better Christian. The original greek word for person, πρόσωπον can also be translated as 'surface' - which may be more fiting for the contexual argument against circumcision. You could translate it as 'God does not respect someone for what is on their surface. What's on the inside, one's personal relationship is what matters'.

And on and on.

Ultimately, the contexual argument about favoritism is this: God shows favoritism on the righteous, internal qualities of a person. He does not, however, care about race, circumcision, or other external qualities of a person. The Bible shows this clearly. God accepted Able's sacrifice because Able gave what God wanted. Cain sacrificed what was easy.

Read the context of Leviticus 26. In this chapter (as well as the ones preceeding and following it), God is outlining His plan for the codification of rights and wrongs for the Israelites. When God commences the 'do's' of the law, he then outlines the blessings involved in such a belief. Again, the Bible is clear that when someone follows God's will, God favors them. All instances of favoritism and respect by God are always in the context of people following God's commandments and will.

 

If you have any more conflicting statements, feel free to post them. I am sure there are enough Christians out there that will mention the context or root wording of the 'conflicting' statements. Most of what your posting is totally out of context, and totally useless in an argument.



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