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d21lewis said:
Fishie said:
Bonafide732 said:
speaking off of personal experience I know plenty of people including myself that proudly haven't spent a dime on any 360 games in a couple of years but own every game possible. I also know some people who do the same with the psp .. so why is it that piracy affects the psp more than the 360.. especially since its easy as pie to pirate both?? all I read around the net is how its not worth developing for the psp because of piracy..

 

Fuck you you fucking piece of thieving shit.

You are fucking PROUD that you have all games but havent bought a single one.
Well FUCK YOU.

Note:  Fishie does not approve of piracy.

+1 respect to Fishie

-3 respect to Bonafide732



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Well at least you're honest about being a pirate and hopefully you're honest why you're a pirate (you're cheap).

As for the PSP, it's more than just piracy. When Sony does advertise it, it's not always as a gaming machine so it's not clear to people what it is. There's also homebrew(not piracy) and the people that use it just for that. Then there's still the fact there aren't a lot of good games for it still. I know people are going to give me crap, but that's still the general idea people have (so perhaps fact was the wrong word).

So the PSP may have this really large userbase but when you split it between people that acriaaly UAE it for games and buy games, people that use it for things other than gaming, the people that don't know it has a library, homebrewers, and pirates, the userbase isn't really that large when thinking about actual gamers (pirates aren't actual gamers, they're people whether intentional or not are trying to kill gaming).



Lumines
Lumines 2
Tekken Dark Ressurection
SFA3
Virtua Tennis
Locco Rocco
Space invaders Extreme
Puzzle Quest
Crush
Hot Shots Golf
Echochrome
N+
Metal Slug Anthology
MegaMan Powered Up
Maverick Hunter X
Mercury
Exit
Exit 2
Every Extend Extra
Bomberman
Bust-A-Move
Sid Meier's Pirates

Numerous other classic anthologies, fighters, and racers just don't count as pick up and play titles apparently



so you pirated to steal money from most of the already rich folks who makes the game but have you consider those who barely make enough for their future expense? not all of the game devs are financially stable you know? think about it before you steal something from other people =) thanks!



forgive my above typos, I'm on the iPhone and it doesn't like the rich text reply so can't edit.

Acriaaly = actually
UAE = use



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I bought a banned modded xbox 360 from a freind. He wanted 100 bucks for it and the power supply is worth that much.

I have 2 xbox systems now(one modded on clean) and it hasn't stopped me from buying all the games I want to play. I did download a couple of games I didn't buy...but thats mostly cause I didn't like them. Sorry LOTR:Conquest. Anything I want to play online I have to buy.

Xbox live is all about community and when I play on the banned xbox and not connected to live I feel isolated and alone...that could be a reason why pirating isn't as harmful to 360. People want to go online with that system first and foremost...



Fishie said:
Bonafide732 said:
speaking off of personal experience I know plenty of people including myself that proudly haven't spent a dime on any 360 games in a couple of years but own every game possible. I also know some people who do the same with the psp .. so why is it that piracy affects the psp more than the 360.. especially since its easy as pie to pirate both?? all I read around the net is how its not worth developing for the psp because of piracy..

 

 

Fuck you you fucking piece of thieving shit.

You are fucking PROUD that you have all games but havent bought a single one.
Well FUCK YOU.

Well said and if I had your address I would pass it onto the police. Is it possible to get this user's address and forward it onto the police.

 



CAL4M1TY said:
Well, I won't send you to hell for pirating, there'll be plenty of other people to do that. But I don't condone it either.

To answer your question, I have two reasons:
1) Xbox Live: The risk of playing a burnt game online (higher if it's a not even released game like that Gears 2 episode a few months back and Halo 3 before that) is that somehow MS can detect that you aren't playing on an official disc and give your xbox console a lifetime ban, meaning no xbox live ever for that console.

It's unlikely that many people would care about that, seeing as how we all went fine on the PS2 with 99% of games having no online content whatsoever.

2) This ones the more likely. RROD. As you are aware, console warranties are voided the second the case is opened and since alot of early 360 modding involved opening the case, only those brave enough pirated games, and the rest of us decided they wouldn't run the risk of having a completely warranty free console.

Even though I've heard that moddings advanced so that opening the case isn't required, I still suspect that the accepted opinion is that modding requires the case opened, case opened voids warranty, we all fear RRoD.

Also don't forget the PSP's been out for way longer, so modding would have been available whilst the 360 was still in R&D.

 

 1. Properly made backups cannot be detected by microsoft as long as you stay up to date with the hacked firmware that is released every 6 months or so.

2. Microsoft outsource repairs to various repair centres. These repair centres are not affiliated with Microsoft. They will repair your Xbox 360 regardless of warranty seal being damaged\removed. At least in Europe. How do I know this? Because I used to sell modded Xbox 360s (I've gone straight now). Since massive numbers of early Xbox 360s have gone RROD and I have sent at least 8-10 for repair.

All of which came back repaired with a brand new warranty seal on, after I had removed the damaged one before sending it in for repair.

There is ZERO motivation for people who intend to play copies who know what they are doing. Other than the moral one.

Which in my case I came to my sense a good year ago, but only a couple of months ago did I send my last Xbox 360 that had no warranty sticker in with successful results.

The problem here is that the repair centre is not affiliated with microsoft and they get paid for a repair. The staff at the service centre therefore have no motivation to not repair your console regardless of its condition.

 

To answer the OP though. It takes a good half an hour to modify an Xbox 360 and that is when you know what you're doing. For a 1st timer we're talking a good few days of looking through forums on how to do it, then a few hours to actually work out how to do it following the steps needed. You then need to read your drive key, patch that in the hacked firmware and other annoying steps. The programs you use are quite fiddly and not user friendly. Finally you need to have a compatible SATA card\chipset and be capable of oppening up your computer to plug in the Xbox 360 DVD-ROM drive etc.

It's a fair bit of hassle 1st time I'll tell you.

PSP = An hour to do your research, find a friend with an already hacked PSP and you'll be finished in 5 mins. All you need is a memory stick which everyone would have already and a spare battery, which you would have if you have a friend with a PSP. Or you can just buy a Datel Tool battery off the shelf. The process is very user friendly.

Also as others have said, many people just buy the PSP for its media features

Finally, there isn't that much good software on the PSP. (sorry PSP diehards, I own one myself and there's no denying there really isn't much going for it and even less looking into the future in terms of games).



@Twesterm: It kinda sucks. I think we should preassure them to make the forum work better with mobile phones. I use my mobile too quite a lot here.



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Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.

Modding an Xbox 360 is very much like sex for the first time...fiddly and stressful and really not much fun but you feel great afterwards for your achievment. (1000GS!)

Modding a PSP for the first time is like porno loving.