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7b) Release Your Console First EVEN at the cost of having over 33% failure rate and the need to spend around 1.2 billion dollar on a "warranty" later.

Microsoft shows the world hardware quality is overrated (specially for Americans.*hint: Microsoft knows its consumers better!)

Releasing first > Hardware Quality



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Final-Fan said:



Two new shoulder buttons ONOZE INNOVATION

For someone who is sarcastincally trashing Sony, in terms of innovation, you sure are an advocate of a company who rehashes the same games year after year after year after year.

Here's one guarantee: In 15 years, if Sony and Nintendo are still making consoles, there will be a Mario or Zelda on the Nintendo console. On the Sony console...who knows? And that's the beauty of it. You'll be guaranteed to enjoy new IPs, rather than have the same game for the past billion years be the reason you bought the console

 



Linkzmax said:
tehsage said:
Snake said:
 

So, i guess if Sony sold Tekken 4 together with PS2, Tekken 4 would be the best game in the history because it sold over 140 millions together with PS2? I am sorry but sales doesent make the game good at all. You cant play sales, can you? And since Wii sports is new IP i am asking you, which character did you liked the best in wii sports?

Wii Sports has to be one of the most influencial games of all time. It showed off what the Wii was capable of and expanded the gaming market. If that's not a good game then I don't know what is.

 

 

There's also the fact that many of the Wii's sales are due to the fact that people want to play Wii Sports.  Just look at the sales of Wii Sports in japan, where it isn't packed-in.  As to the question of which character is the best, are you claiming the Gran Turismo series isn't an IP?

 

 

No, that driver has a name it starts with the A but i forgot the whole name.



Bladeforce said:
Microsoft is making money????????/ hell it must be my eyes lying to me with the thousands of job cuts they are introducing RIGHT NOW!

Then it must be your eyes, because you didn't see their financial report that showed them making billions of dollars in profit.

 



BMaker11 said:
Final-Fan said:



Two new shoulder buttons ONOZE INNOVATION

For someone who is sarcastincally trashing Sony, in terms of innovation, you sure are an advocate of a company who rehashes the same games year after year after year after year.

Here's one guarantee: In 15 years, if Sony and Nintendo are still making consoles, there will be a Mario or Zelda on the Nintendo console. On the Sony console...who knows? And that's the beauty of it. You'll be guaranteed to enjoy new IPs, rather than have the same game for the past billion years be the reason you bought the console

 

 

That's exactly it! I look forward to the next Zelda and Mario game! I know they'll provide what I like. What if Sony made a game you loved and wanted a sequel to but never did. That'd be depressing.



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BMaker11 said:
Final-Fan said:
Two new shoulder buttons ONOZE INNOVATION
For someone who is sarcastincally trashing Sony, in terms of innovation, you sure are an advocate of a company who rehashes the same games year after year after year after year.

Here's one guarantee: In 15 years, if Sony and Nintendo are still making consoles, there will be a Mario or Zelda on the Nintendo console. On the Sony console...who knows? And that's the beauty of it. You'll be guaranteed to enjoy new IPs, rather than have the same game for the past billion years be the reason you bought the console

That's just a sign of how awesome Nintendo is with their franchises.  Sony would kill to have that kind of lasting quality. 

Remember, SM64 came out when the franchise was already well over a decade old.  And was it not innovative?  It fucking revolutionized and set the gold standard for 3D platforming.  Just because it's still the same Mario saving the same Princess Peach from the same Bowser, does that somehow blind you to the fantastic new gameplay in each iteration of the Mario franchise?  It is not the "same game". 

BTW, I'm not knocking Sony for adopting a great control scheme, I'm just saying they didn't come up with it on their own. 



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Snake said:
FJ-Warez said:
Snake said:
Sullla said:
Snake said:

Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda... Its pretty damn easy to make 2 good games and than just upgrade the graphics and characters just like Nintendo is doing. Sony and Microsoft are at least trying to make new characters and new stories. If Sony worked 20 years on Medievil just like Nintendo worked 20 years on Mario, Medievil games would be pure 10 today. Like i said its pretty easy to make 1 or 2 characters and than upgrading them step by step for 20 years. Any company can do that

You're right. Nintendo NEVER creates new IPs. It's all Mario and Zelda. That's why the biggest Nintendo games over the past five years have been Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, and Brain Age.

 

 

What? Thats stupid. You cant count a game which is sold together with console. Wii sports is together with wii in the box.And which character did you find the best in wii sports?  Wii fit is not a game, its a Nintendo's way to beat its gaming competitors without actuall games.

 

So wait, bundled games doesn´t count as a new IP because you don´t want to ??? Wii-fit is not a game?? Man are you being serious or are you just trying to make us laugh???

And about the best character I find the best in Wii sports?? My Mii of course XD

 

 

 

 

Wii fit is a game? H O W ???

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYBmAVuBns&feature=related

Activities

Training on Wii Fit is divided into four categories: yoga, strength training, aerobics, and balance games. The activities provide a core workout, emphasizing controlled movements rather than overexertion. Activities include:

Balance Games - Get into the action with fun, balanced-based games

  • Football Heading (also known as "Soccer Heading")
  • Ski Jumping
  • Ski Slalom
  • Snowboard Slalom
  • Table Tilt - The player must shift their balance to get balls into holes.
  • Tightrope Walk - The player must cross a tightrope avoiding the bear traps.
  • Balance Bubble - The player attempts to navigate down a river in a bubble without bursting it on the sides.
  • Penguin Slide - The player has to catch fish while balanced on a piece of ice.
  • Lotus Focus - The player must remain motionless while looking at a flame.

 



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FJ-Warez said:
Snake said:
FJ-Warez said:
Snake said:
Sullla said:
Snake said:

Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda... Its pretty damn easy to make 2 good games and than just upgrade the graphics and characters just like Nintendo is doing. Sony and Microsoft are at least trying to make new characters and new stories. If Sony worked 20 years on Medievil just like Nintendo worked 20 years on Mario, Medievil games would be pure 10 today. Like i said its pretty easy to make 1 or 2 characters and than upgrading them step by step for 20 years. Any company can do that

You're right. Nintendo NEVER creates new IPs. It's all Mario and Zelda. That's why the biggest Nintendo games over the past five years have been Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, and Brain Age.

 

 

What? Thats stupid. You cant count a game which is sold together with console. Wii sports is together with wii in the box.And which character did you find the best in wii sports?  Wii fit is not a game, its a Nintendo's way to beat its gaming competitors without actuall games.

 

So wait, bundled games doesn´t count as a new IP because you don´t want to ??? Wii-fit is not a game?? Man are you being serious or are you just trying to make us laugh???

And about the best character I find the best in Wii sports?? My Mii of course XD

 

 

 

 

Wii fit is a game? H O W ???

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYBmAVuBns&feature=related

Activities

Training on Wii Fit is divided into four categories: yoga, strength training, aerobics, and balance games. The activities provide a core workout, emphasizing controlled movements rather than overexertion. Activities include:

Balance Games - Get into the action with fun, balanced-based games

  • Football Heading (also known as "Soccer Heading")
  • Ski Jumping
  • Ski Slalom
  • Snowboard Slalom
  • Table Tilt - The player must shift their balance to get balls into holes.
  • Tightrope Walk - The player must cross a tightrope avoiding the bear traps.
  • Balance Bubble - The player attempts to navigate down a river in a bubble without bursting it on the sides.
  • Penguin Slide - The player has to catch fish while balanced on a piece of ice.
  • Lotus Focus - The player must remain motionless while looking at a flame.

 

''Balance Bubble - The player attempts to navigate down a river in a bubble without bursting it on the sides.''

 WOW, i am convinced, i am buying wii fit right away

Dude, be realistic, these are just some miny game for practice. The point of wii fit is people to get fit and do yoga.



Snake said:
FJ-Warez said:
Snake said:
FJ-Warez said:
Snake said:
Sullla said:
Snake said:

Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda, Mario, Zelda... Its pretty damn easy to make 2 good games and than just upgrade the graphics and characters just like Nintendo is doing. Sony and Microsoft are at least trying to make new characters and new stories. If Sony worked 20 years on Medievil just like Nintendo worked 20 years on Mario, Medievil games would be pure 10 today. Like i said its pretty easy to make 1 or 2 characters and than upgrading them step by step for 20 years. Any company can do that

You're right. Nintendo NEVER creates new IPs. It's all Mario and Zelda. That's why the biggest Nintendo games over the past five years have been Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Nintendogs, and Brain Age.

 

 

What? Thats stupid. You cant count a game which is sold together with console. Wii sports is together with wii in the box.And which character did you find the best in wii sports?  Wii fit is not a game, its a Nintendo's way to beat its gaming competitors without actuall games.

 

So wait, bundled games doesn´t count as a new IP because you don´t want to ??? Wii-fit is not a game?? Man are you being serious or are you just trying to make us laugh???

And about the best character I find the best in Wii sports?? My Mii of course XD

 

 

 

 

Wii fit is a game? H O W ???

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYBmAVuBns&feature=related

Activities

Training on Wii Fit is divided into four categories: yoga, strength training, aerobics, and balance games. The activities provide a core workout, emphasizing controlled movements rather than overexertion. Activities include:

Balance Games - Get into the action with fun, balanced-based games

 

  • Football Heading (also known as "Soccer Heading")
  • Ski Jumping
  • Ski Slalom
  • Snowboard Slalom
  • Table Tilt - The player must shift their balance to get balls into holes.
  • Tightrope Walk - The player must cross a tightrope avoiding the bear traps.
  • Balance Bubble - The player attempts to navigate down a river in a bubble without bursting it on the sides.
  • Penguin Slide - The player has to catch fish while balanced on a piece of ice.
  • Lotus Focus - The player must remain motionless while looking at a flame.

 

 

''Balance Bubble - The player attempts to navigate down a river in a bubble without bursting it on the sides.''

 WOW, i am convinced, i am buying wii fit right away

Dude, be realistic, these are just some miny game for practice. The point of wii fit is people to get fit and do yoga.

 

And that's the objective of the game! Stay in shape! Thank's for proving our point. :)