You don't get the best of the PS3 that way, are you just saying that all PS3 exclusives are rubbish?

I hardly believe that only 2-3% of Xbox 360 owners play PC games, especially considering PC had over 260 millions gamers in 2007.

While Xbox 360 is getting games that otherwise would've been exclusive to PS3 or PC, the PS3 is also getting a few that would've been Xbox 360 only. On the other hand, PC is getting nearly all of Xbox 360's best games, while X360 is getting but a fraction of PC's best.

And it's not just $200, is it? There's XBLG that you need to get if you intend to play any online game, and the games are also more expensive than the PC gets.

Where do you get these figures from? You always seem to have them but no source

Anyway, definitely more than 2-3% have gaming PCs, but there is a clear divide between console and PC gamer. I would never consider getting any game other than an RTS on my PC, but I am sure there are those who can't bear to play an FPS on a console.

About the quoted $200 price point. You shouldn't buy the arcade anyway, you should get the one with the 60GB hard drive, but if I go on about added costs any more I am going to sound like Sony

Nope, i said what i said, that the best PS3 games for me were FF13 and RE5

there is just two more games i would miss from PS3, FF13vs and Demon Soul and frankly i do not nearly care as much for those two as for FF13  and Star Ocean 4 and those other 360 RPG's

And all that considering Square may have yet once more lied about FF13vs appear only on PS3, like they did with FF13

baffles me that anyone would buy a system that isn't complete.  I'd need a HD and wireless, which bought alone significantly adds to the price.

So basically you think all of those Xbox games are better than all of the PS3 games? Because that is what you are implying by only stating those as the PS3 games that you think are any good

What do you mean by complete ?

I can play all my games on my Arcade 360, and play as amazing as on my Premium one, there is no difference

BTW you can always grab a used 20GB HDD for less than 30$, so even if you add the HDD, the price is 230$, which again is vastly less than PC, PS3 and less than Wii

As for wireless, i would never use it, i have it disabled in my router, my PC, all laptops etc, since the connection is far worst than the wired one, and is dangerous for your health as well, i just hate bathing in microwaves myself, thank god 360 does not have anything like that

BTW is there a way to disable PS3 wi-fi completly ?

I am not "implying" anything, i just like western RPGs first and JRPG's after most of all, and after FF13 went to 360, PS3 lost all its appeal for me

So, i bought PS3 for FF13 and WKC

WKC turned out to a game i would never buy, since the visuals and gameplay, world design are totally underwhelming for me, reminds me of MMO and FF12, games i hate with a passion, because their generic nature destroy what could have been a great single player experience

And FF13, my top wanted JRPG and the reason i bought PS3 is now on 360

So now i keep it for Demon Soul, which seems like a good action/RPG and FF13vs, which while i hate in art, it is a Square game, so will be amazing obviously and a reason to keep my PS3

Other than that, yes, i like the huge worlds of those 360 WRPGs, alan Wake, KUf2 etc more than any PS3 exclusive by far, and also Star Ocean 4 is my 2ond most wanted JRPG this generation, after FF13 of course

PS3 is still holding, but it is definatly not as important to me as when i bought it, most of its games are indifferent to me

What I mean by complete is having a HD to get the full functionality of games and the internet.  I would not be able to download demos, play Rock Band DLC, install games for faster load times, etc.

It's $40 (35+ shipping on amazon) for 20gb which translates to about 16GB and is a complete rip off when I can use any hard drive I want with my PS3 and get a 5:1 GB to dollar ratio as opposed to 1:2.  16GB isn't nearly enough.  I'm struggling with my ~56GB on my PS3.

You also have to pay for Live which adds up.  It would have cost me $150 by now.

The 120gb hard drive is about $100, so that's already $300 so you might as well get the complete 360, or spend $100 more and get a blu-ray player (for the price of 2 years of Live).

Even using cell phone is several times more dangerous for your health than wi-fi. Both cell phones and Wi-fi uses radiowaves except cell phone is right next to your head when you are using it and normally has more powerful signal. So if you are so scared about wi-fi then you can't use cell phone either.