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Just found a funny link to how microsoft are donating money to charties if peopel sign up to this i'm program.

http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=MSNTDLINK

now I know its practically impossible to do it. However if you got enough sony fanboys all 100million ps2 owners to do it lol. It be an interesting thimg to watch.

However I bet they donate like 1cent for every 100dollars they make.

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Many people state that especially Bill Gates must be a terrific human being because he donates to charity... Well if you've got one hundred billion dollars (and he had at some point), it's hardly qualifying for saint status if you give half of it away. He still had to butter his bread and sugar his porridge...
Big corporations sometimes donate, as do celebrities, so we'll think higher of them.
That's the only reason they do it, it's not because they're so kind of heart.

I truly hope MS goes bankrupt in the future, I don't like them one bit, and I'm far from the only one!



Well, M$ has two money makers... Windows and Office. Vista has not been embraced by the world very well, at all, neither has Office 2007. Bad news for M$. Especially with the incredibly rapid growth of Linux in business and the desktop, a system which they CANNOT stop through their typical strong-arm ways of old, and OpenOffice/StarOffice gaining strength (especially with the recent addition of StarOffice in the free Google productivity software package!) is a major blow to their Office endeavours. And with the XBox series being more of a burnden than a benefit to their bottom line.. I can see the once mighty M$ folding within a few years... if not folding, changing their business ways a LOT. Look at the facts... A few years ago, would you have ever seen computer makers like HP or DELL not doing what M$ demanded? Not selling the new Windows "exclusively" as microsoft demands, or directly going against them buy supporting or selling Linux on their machines? That would have been unheard of back in the days when M$ controlled all of the cards. The times... they are a changing! GOOD! About freakin' time.



if someone figures out how to run every windows games in linux with a better performance and without much work to install then, MS brokes... but I think it is as easy as convince microsoft to open all their code and donate all their money...

so I think it will take a while to bankrupt...   some years of failures at least... 



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Lol it'll take ages to bankrupt them...



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Mummelmann said:
Many people state that especially Bill Gates must be a terrific human being because he donates to charity... Well if you've got one hundred billion dollars (and he had at some point), it's hardly qualifying for saint status if you give half of it away. He still had to butter his bread and sugar his porridge...
Big corporations sometimes donate, as do celebrities, so we'll think higher of them.
That's the only reason they do it, it's not because they're so kind of heart.

I truly hope MS goes bankrupt in the future, I don't like them one bit, and I'm far from the only one!

This is quite possibly the most arrogant post I have ever read. A man donates billions of his own money and saves the lives of millions of people dying of Malaria. He has publically stated that when he dies he only wants his children to inherit a few million of his 60 or so billion dollars.

Now take the Wal-Mart family, every brother, sister, child, grandchild, and newphew was given several billion dollars. Sam Walton made his entire family multi billionaires and they plan to keep all of the money in the family, ensuring that for the next 200 years any member of that family will be able to buy multimillion dollar yachts and never have to work a day in their life. Yet everyone picks on Bill Gates, a man who has a will that says 99.9% of money will go to saving lives.

Money he made I might add. He was born with nothing and plans to leave with a few million. But inbetween he made (from scratch) about a hundred billion dollars and gave most of it away. How many other humans go through their lives acculating money with the final goal to give it away?

If Gates was never born charities would be short billions of dollars and millions would have died. He has saved more lives that Hitler killed. Yet no one seems to care, they are all just mad that he was successful and has more money than them.

50 grand a year is more money than what 95% of the world makes each year. You can't honestly say that if you had a $300,000 a year job you would give away $250,000 every year since "you can still butter your bread and sugar your porridge with 50,000 a year."

Grow up people, seriously. Yes he's very rich but look at the hundreds of other billionairs in the world. Most of whom don't donate a penny.



Mummelmann said:
Many people state that especially Bill Gates must be a terrific human being because he donates to charity... Well if you've got one hundred billion dollars (and he had at some point), it's hardly qualifying for saint status if you give half of it away. He still had to butter his bread and sugar his porridge...
Big corporations sometimes donate, as do celebrities, so we'll think higher of them.
That's the only reason they do it, it's not because they're so kind of heart.

I truly hope MS goes bankrupt in the future, I don't like them one bit, and I'm far from the only one!

And yet if he didn't donate billions you'd be bashing him for that.  Seriously how could the man win with you?  Also how much of your money have you given to charity?  Do you sponsor even one child in Africa?  He helps millions there.  Stop bashing someone who gives away billions of dollars to help millions of people, it's not like he has to do it.



Vista Ultimate priced at £370 and Office07 being priced at £100 is stupid because you can buy a computer with them both installed at £500 thus MS shoots themselves in the foot.Google offers free apps over the internet thus shooting MS in the foot.Dell offers Linux as standard on PC's thus shooting MS in the foot.AppleMacintosh is gaining ground against MS because they are more reliable(dont crash etc),dont go outdated as fast as PC's,more user friendly(this list could go on all day).MS doesnt have the pulling or pushing power it once had and about time they were killing the industry.MS will die from Xbox and Zune and to a lesser extent Vista and Office why i hear you ask,Xbox is $7billion is debt and Live® subscriptions only cover the cost of running itself.Zune has sold nothing compared to iPod at around 150millionWW since 2001 and Zune has sold about 1.2million since November14th06.Vista and Office will sell eventually but not like their predecsors did.Xbox and Zune are MS trying to force their way into an industry that isnt theirs to rule like they forced themselves in to the OSindustry in 1985 against Apple which ruled the OSindustry for almost 20years Windows only started to gain marketshare against Apple on the release on Windows95 and from then to now MS has ruled the OSindustry its time for change.



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eab said:
Mummelmann said:
Many people state that especially Bill Gates must be a terrific human being because he donates to charity... Well if you've got one hundred billion dollars (and he had at some point), it's hardly qualifying for saint status if you give half of it away. He still had to butter his bread and sugar his porridge...
Big corporations sometimes donate, as do celebrities, so we'll think higher of them.
That's the only reason they do it, it's not because they're so kind of heart.

I truly hope MS goes bankrupt in the future, I don't like them one bit, and I'm far from the only one!

This is quite possibly the most arrogant post I have ever read. A man donates billions of his own money and saves the lives of millions of people dying of Malaria. He has publically stated that when he dies he only wants his children to inherit a few million of his 60 or so billion dollars.

Now take the Wal-Mart family, every brother, sister, child, grandchild, and newphew was given several billion dollars. Sam Walton made his entire family multi billionaires and they plan to keep all of the money in the family, ensuring that for the next 200 years any member of that family will be able to buy multimillion dollar yachts and never have to work a day in their life. Yet everyone picks on Bill Gates, a man who has a will that says 99.9% of money will go to saving lives.

Money he made I might add. He was born with nothing and plans to leave with a few million. But inbetween he made (from scratch) about a hundred billion dollars and gave most of it away. How many other humans go through their lives acculating money with the final goal to give it away?

If Gates was never born charities would be short billions of dollars and millions would have died. He has saved more lives that Hitler killed. Yet no one seems to care, they are all just mad that he was successful and has more money than them.

50 grand a year is more money than what 95% of the world makes each year. You can't honestly say that if you had a $300,000 a year job you would give away $250,000 every year since "you can still butter your bread and sugar your porridge with 50,000 a year."

Grow up people, seriously. Yes he's very rich but look at the hundreds of other billionairs in the world. Most of whom don't donate a penny.


 Well, first off; why would he keep half his fortune if he was as noble as you say? He still had over 50 billion dollars left. If his plan was to give away all his money in the will, why not donate them NOW? If I made 300.000$ a year, I would surely give to charity like all my fellow countrymen (norwegians are the most charitable people in the world), but not 250.000$. That's a strange comparison; if you have 100 billion dollars and give half of it away, then you're still filthy rich, but if I give away 250.000 of 300.000 I'm not even well off here in Norway (average Norwegian makes about 65.000$ a year in todays currency).

I 'm not attacking Bill Gates personally because his rich, I'm protesting this pedestal people elevate him onto because he gave away half his fortune and was still the richest man in the world... That's all.



@mitsuhide:

The list of how Microsoft is better than Apple could not go on all day. The reason you put that was because you probably (I stress the word 'probably') couldn't think of anything else, anywho some debunking must go on:

"AppleMacintosh is gaining ground against MS because they are more reliable(dont crash etc)"

Not true, there are two main reasons that Apple are 'gaining' on Microsoft (and we're talking a couple of % a year, if that) are that a) It's cool and trendy too like Apple, b) It's cool and trendy to hate Microsoft.

Most people when picking up a Mac for the first time don't think 'I shall be picking up this Mac because it is reliable' they are picking up the Mac because 'The Apple iPod is great, these funny-shaped computers look cool, lets pick up this overpriced box of hardware'.

"dont go outdated as fast as PC's"

Well, there are a few reasons for this:

a) Little hardware manufacturer support
b) Little software support, thus not driving greater hardware support
c) Only one hardware manufacturer (or is it two, I heard one created a tablet Mac) create actual Macintosh systems. Most companies release two to three big revisions in hardware every year (estimation), and Apple follows this trend. However the number of companies making Windows PCs (btw - don't buy the PR-BS a Macintosh IS a PC) is vastly greater than the one/two companies making Mac systems. I like choices, and I like building more hardware.

Also, I'd like to point out that around 85% of the computing population don't upgrade their computer for atleast three-to-four years. All these hardware revisions don't exactly seem to make them all jump ship in fright now, does it?.

"more user friendly"

Well, Opinion != Fact (or as Soriku would say Opinion =/= Fact). But, lets put 95% of the computing population on first Windows and then a Mac OS, which one will come out on top as people being able to work their way around. Fact is, most businesses and schools around the world run Windows so people are going to learn their way with Windows whether it was the hardest OS to use on the market or not.

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Also, about the charity thing, we can all sit around and say what Bill Gates should and shouldn't be doing with HIS money, but at the end of the day it is HIS money, and whether Microsoft haters like it or not, he does use his money in charitable ways. He's given billions upon billions to charitys all over the world, he's set up his own charitable organisation, his will leaves almost all of his money to charity.

Also, in an out-of-the-box way, even if he was to spend all of his money 'selfishly' (which it wouldn't be, he worked to get that money (whether he works hard or not now is a different matter)) he would still be saving peoples lives, his money would be keeping hundreds of people at his favourite organisations employed (lets say his favourite food is McDonalds, he alone could keep the company afloat if he really loved it). These employees can now live and raise a family (lets not get into how much a McDonalds worker is paid here), and... dun Dun DUN.... donate some of their money to charity, they would be giving charitys Bill's hard earned and somewhat greasy money.