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Resistance 2 is a vastly superior game to the first.
Sales-wise,R2 is performing better than the first.
So,I dont get this the point of this thread.



 

 

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Jo21 said:
Garnett said:
Jo21 said:
its selling after than the first one.

and left 4 dead its selling about the same in a system that have a "8 million" lead.

Yea but R2 had huge hype where as L4D did not and R2 was gonna save the PS3...Awww...

 

 

i remenber mods like ben and many people hyping it >_>. r2 never had hype and no one ever said resistance 2 was going to save the ps3, its other fanboy saying that the ps3 doens't need savers it got good games itself already just look a 2009 line up.

and make profits.

at much r2 got was about it deserve better sales, and the co op online was fun .

You are joking, right? I remember a thread: OH MY GOD!!! RESISTANCE 2 HAS BETTER GRAPHICS THAN GEARS OF WAR 2!!!! With pics inside and everything. It's funny how so many people hyped the games (both the first and the second) like they were an equal or even better counterpart to gears and when it came out and the sales weren't so good they just forgot everything they said...it's really funny...and anyway it's sales (of R2) just shows that the first one sold mostly because there wasn't anything else on the market at the time. And I'm not talking about the game quality because  i didn't play it.

 



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Turin Turambar said:
Jo21 said:
Garnett said:
Jo21 said:
its selling after than the first one.

and left 4 dead its selling about the same in a system that have a "8 million" lead.

Yea but R2 had huge hype where as L4D did not and R2 was gonna save the PS3...Awww...

 

 

i remenber mods like ben and many people hyping it >_>. r2 never had hype and no one ever said resistance 2 was going to save the ps3, its other fanboy saying that the ps3 doens't need savers it got good games itself already just look a 2009 line up.

and make profits.

at much r2 got was about it deserve better sales, and the co op online was fun .

You are joking, right? I remember a thread: OH MY GOD!!! RESISTANCE 2 HAS BETTER GRAPHICS THAN GEARS OF WAR 2!!!! With pics inside and everything. It's funny how so many people hyped the games (both the first and the second) like they were an equal or even better counterpart to gears and when it came out and the sales weren't so good they just forgot everything they said...it's really funny...and anyway it's sales (of R2) just shows that the first one sold mostly because there wasn't anything else on the market at the time. And I'm not talking about the game quality because  i didn't play it.

 

 

it have better art direction but no one said it was to going ot be savior or anything just a good game, and even so if you see the prediction of the sales gears 2 was put on the front.



Turin Turambar said:
Jo21 said:
Garnett said:
Jo21 said:
its selling after than the first one.

and left 4 dead its selling about the same in a system that have a "8 million" lead.

Yea but R2 had huge hype where as L4D did not and R2 was gonna save the PS3...Awww...



i remenber mods like ben and many people hyping it >_>. r2 never had hype and no one ever said resistance 2 was going to save the ps3, its other fanboy saying that the ps3 doens't need savers it got good games itself already just look a 2009 line up.

and make profits.

at much r2 got was about it deserve better sales, and the co op online was fun .

You are joking, right? I remember a thread: OH MY GOD!!! RESISTANCE 2 HAS BETTER GRAPHICS THAN GEARS OF WAR 2!!!! With pics inside and everything. It's funny how so many people hyped the games (both the first and the second) like they were an equal or even better counterpart to gears and when it came out and the sales weren't so good they just forgot everything they said...it's really funny...and anyway it's sales (of R2) just shows that the first one sold mostly because there wasn't anything else on the market at the time. And I'm not talking about the game quality because  i didn't play it.



it have better art direction but no one said it was to going ot be savior or anything just a good game, and even so if you see the prediction of the sales gears 2 was put on the front.



"RFOM 1 > RFOM 2: Its not an improved sequel and the sales prove it. "

 

The title alone has unbearable amounts of fail in it , it's not improved on the basis of sales ?.

Don't bother factoring in the leveling of  bundling that R1 received or the small amount of titles availible on the PS3 round R1's release or the huge competition R2 had at it's debut , that don't matter.  And even if there was more demand for R1 than R2 that doesn't mean that R2 wans't an improvment.

You probably know all these things already but fanboys will be fanboys .



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I'm starting to think Squil is a paid SONY employee who starts topics such as this to expose the falicies of anti-PS3 spin...

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R2's sales are tracking much better, haven't played them yet though. Probably wont buy the first but I really want the second game.



4 ≈ One

The reason why i think R1 sales are higher is because of a launch title. Let's face it, in 06 and 10 months of 07 there wasn't many games out at all for PS3. R1 was really the only choice at the time.



Squilliam said:

*****THERE MAY BE SOME SPOILERS*******

If you look at it from the perspective of a hardcore gamer, its a fine addition to the series. If you look at it from the perspective of a normal or casual type gamer so you're taking your typical person who doesn't review games for a living then the game is actually a reversal on the success of the first.

Story: The RFOM 2 is a disjointed storyline, its difficult to make heads or tails of whats going on at many points in the game. Comparatively RFOM 1s storyline is much more straightforward and delivered in a consistant manner even if told from a 2nd person perspective.

RFOM 2 finishes the whole game in a dissatisfactory manner <- This is your subjective opinion, if this was a WW2 game you'd be playing as the Nazis and you'd finish the game watching Soviet tanks rolling into Berlin <- This is an irrelevant comparison. Maybe thats cool for some people, but on average its not something people are going to like. RFOM 1 on the other hand, whilst it finishes with a similar phyrric type victory it gives the player some satisfaction as it actually feels like you've achieved something.

Gameplay:

RFOM 2 lacks design quality of great FPS games. To put it simply, they failed to understand what makes games like Halo, Half-Life, Call of Duty, Gears of War <- Gears of War is an FPS?? great or even if they understood, they failed to implement their design properly. Their big monsters didn't engage the player like a game like Gears of War, which they were obviously attempting to emulate. Theres no danger, no sense that the big thing is anything other than a sitting duck to you <- Something that you say below directly contradicts this and they overused them as gameplay elements so after the first it was no longer interesting or exciting to fight them <- So having more big monsters is bad??. Their sense of escalatation was to add more of them.

Many of their gameplay elements did a better job at annoying rather than entertaining the player. Theres a difference between a fair and consistant game like Half-Life 2 and RFOM 2. In Half-Life 2 if you died it was generally because you screwed up, in RFOM 2 its a different story. Being killed because you're looking the wrong way is not a friendly game mechanic. Being killed because you walked around the corner into one of those shield carrying big guys <-- Maybe those shield carrying big guys instill a sense of fear and danger? Coz they certainly are no sitting duck. See how you contradict your point above? is not a friendly game mechanic. Being killed because theres a combination of Auger soldiers and bots on the other side of the river in not a friendly game mechanic because you cannot find cover <- So you came up with this single point in an 8 hour game to show how its gameplay is broken?

Sales:

There are 4 shooters which are selling better than RFOM 2 on consoles at the moment. These are:

Call of Duty WAW, Gears of War, Left 4 Dead, Farcry 2 <- Is Farcry 2 selling more then RFOM 2 for the PS3? over 5 SKUs. So in the overall list its the 5th or 6th best selling SKU on the charts at the moment in the FPS genre. Its also not significantly ahead of a game which was released more than a year ago, Halo 3. There must be something in the appeal of the game as its not facing significant competition which is keeping it from selling as well as it should.

Conclusion:

Aside from the multi-player and visuals, I cannot help but feel they have gone backwards with the game compared to the first. The first game had a simpler gameplay mechanic and storyline and it was implemented better. In this game they overcomplicated things, perhaps they were over-ambitious relative to their timetable for delivery. I believe if anything, its the sales which are the real testament to how they went wrong with the game, not the reviews. <- RFOM 2 is selling about the same on the PS3 as LBP. So it goes to say that LBP is broken as well?

 

 

Personally I think Resistance 2 is one of the best shooter's ever. Its worth $60 just for the multiplayer alone. On top of that you get a fantastic single player. Compared to Resistance 2 COD5:WaW feels like you are moving in slow-mo.

I will advise you to take a break and leave this game alone if you are not good at it.

 



 

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