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selnor said:
Damstr8 said:
selnor said:
I will also just point out that no game that has ever reached AAA status and amazing sales has ever been hyped up to the massive.

Look at the original

Half Life

Halo

GTA

Gran Turismo

Far Cry

Mario Kart

Gears of War..... etc etc...

Look at big hyped games

LBP

KZ

Too Human

Daikatana

Etc...etc....

These games never reached amazing sales, you cant create a groundbreaking sales selling monster with hype. These monster sellers just appear, they happen. Same with films. Look at The Matrix, they released that 4 months apart from Episode 1 Phantom Menace. The Producers didnt epect alot in sales at all.

I thought Assassins creed did pretty well.

 

Yeah it did didnt it. My point though is well, it's fine to hype a sequel to a monster selling original. The thing is you know when a series is massive, because it is hardly hyped by the devs or Publisher at all. Merely the announcement of a sequel to a killer original is enough to get the fans hyping all on their own. This was not the case with KZ2. I remember when KZ2 got announced. There was hardly any noise from fans, it was all Devs and Publishers going look how good it looks etc etc.

Think back to the Halo 3 announcement. Before Bungie or M$ had a chance to hype it the Halo community had already pretty much figured the story out. It was hyped all on it's own. Thats the difference.

I feel many fanboys are hurting themselves, because when the sales dont get anywhere near games like Halo 3, Gears Of War 2, Mario Kart and the like they will wonder why. It will probably be a good game, but pinning so much hope on a sequel from the same devs that made a poor original that got 70 on metacritic is unheard of. But I am slightly worried that they have put all their effort into graphics and not gameplay.

 

 

you know about KZ2 gameplay how???

 

people who were in the beta loved the gameplay and it seems so does many reviewers( http://n4g.com/PS3/games/g-24194/tt/metareviews.aspx ),,,Sometimes you just have to accept that you were wrong that the game will flop critically just like KZ1 in most of your KZ2 posts



 

 

 

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Onyxmeth said:
luisgvm said:

 

in the post he put before were he say smell like a flop or something like that.

 

Ah ok. Yeah that would have been a little less confusing had you quoted the post you were responding to.

 

 

yes i know i kinda got confuse jeje.



says the guy who is posting here^^^



Max King of the Wild said:
I can not believe people are still posting in this thread like its a big deal... and onyxneth if that music thing is true then maxim is really stupid and all these tolls are rediculous

 

 The thing is Maxim are not biased in any way. Thge problem is people on the net are in the hype. Without playing they already call it AAA.

Now to me having as much hype as this and calling a sequel to a 70 metacritic game AAA is just plain ridiculous.

Maxim pretty much portray average joe. the normal guy who doesnt give a rats arse about online hype. These guys probably genuinely preferred 50 cent. It may sound crazy amidst internet hype, but out in the real world we probably look absolutely crazy for hyping this sequel.

Seriously KZ1 70 on metacritic. What do you honestly expect from KZ2 apart from visuals?



selnor said:
Damstr8 said:
selnor said:
I will also just point out that no game that has ever reached AAA status and amazing sales has ever been hyped up to the massive.

Look at the original

Half Life

Halo

GTA

Gran Turismo

Far Cry

Mario Kart

Gears of War..... etc etc...

Look at big hyped games

LBP

KZ

Too Human

Daikatana

Etc...etc....

These games never reached amazing sales, you cant create a groundbreaking sales selling monster with hype. These monster sellers just appear, they happen. Same with films. Look at The Matrix, they released that 4 months apart from Episode 1 Phantom Menace. The Producers didnt epect alot in sales at all.

I thought Assassins creed did pretty well.

 

Yeah it did didnt it. My point though is well, it's fine to hype a sequel to a monster selling original. The thing is you know when a series is massive, because it is hardly hyped by the devs or Publisher at all. Merely the announcement of a sequel to a killer original is enough to get the fans hyping all on their own. This was not the case with KZ2. I remember when KZ2 got announced. There was hardly any noise from fans, it was all Devs and Publishers going look how good it looks etc etc.

Think back to the Halo 3 announcement. Before Bungie or M$ had a chance to hype it the Halo community had already pretty much figured the story out. It was hyped all on it's own. Thats the difference.

I feel many fanboys are hurting themselves, because when the sales dont get anywhere near games like Halo 3, Gears Of War 2, Mario Kart and the like they will wonder why. It will probably be a good game, but pinning so much hope on a sequel from the same devs that made a poor original that got 70 on metacritic is unheard of. But I am slightly worried that they have put all their effort into graphics and not gameplay.

 

funny,i remember KZ2 being announced and a ton of people were excited.
and "hits" dont just happen,they were hyped in one form or another.

The original Gran Turismo for example,was(if i can remember correctly) supposed to be the most realsitic driving ame ever created.

thats hype.

 



 

 

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selnor said:
Max King of the Wild said:
I can not believe people are still posting in this thread like its a big deal... and onyxneth if that music thing is true then maxim is really stupid and all these tolls are rediculous

 

 The thing is Maxim are not biased in any way. Thge problem is people on the net are in the hype. Without playing they already call it AAA.

Now to me having as much hype as this and calling a sequel to a 70 metacritic game AAA is just plain ridiculous.

Maxim pretty much portray average joe. the normal guy who doesnt give a rats arse about online hype. These guys probably genuinely preferred 50 cent. It may sound crazy amidst internet hype, but out in the real world we probably look absolutely crazy for hyping this sequel.

Seriously KZ1 70 on metacritic. What do you honestly expect from KZ2 apart from visuals?

 

For someone who calls SO4 AAA without even having played any in the series this seems excessively hypocritical.



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selnor said:
Max King of the Wild said:
I can not believe people are still posting in this thread like its a big deal... and onyxneth if that music thing is true then maxim is really stupid and all these tolls are rediculous

 

 The thing is Maxim are not biased in any way. Thge problem is people on the net are in the hype. Without playing they already call it AAA.

Now to me having as much hype as this and calling a sequel to a 70 metacritic game AAA is just plain ridiculous.

Maxim pretty much portray average joe. the normal guy who doesnt give a rats arse about online hype. These guys probably genuinely preferred 50 cent. It may sound crazy amidst internet hype, but out in the real world we probably look absolutely crazy for hyping this sequel.

Seriously KZ1 70 on metacritic. What do you honestly expect from KZ2 apart from visuals?

 

so when KZ2 get a meta critics above 90 after 40 reviews you make an official appology for chewing the same BS over and over again?

 

P.S. you were the one calling SO4 , farcry 2,ninja gaiden 2  AAA before even playing them.So hypocrisy much?



 

 

 

SpartanFX said:
selnor said:
Max King of the Wild said:
I can not believe people are still posting in this thread like its a big deal... and onyxneth if that music thing is true then maxim is really stupid and all these tolls are rediculous

 

 The thing is Maxim are not biased in any way. Thge problem is people on the net are in the hype. Without playing they already call it AAA.

Now to me having as much hype as this and calling a sequel to a 70 metacritic game AAA is just plain ridiculous.

Maxim pretty much portray average joe. the normal guy who doesnt give a rats arse about online hype. These guys probably genuinely preferred 50 cent. It may sound crazy amidst internet hype, but out in the real world we probably look absolutely crazy for hyping this sequel.

Seriously KZ1 70 on metacritic. What do you honestly expect from KZ2 apart from visuals?

 

so when KZ2 get a meta critics above 90 after 40 reviews you make an official appology for chewing the same BS over and over again?

 

P.S. you were the one calling SO4 , farcry 2,ninja gaiden 2  AAA before even playing them.So hypocrisy much?

Major LOL.

I have NEVER called SO4, Far Cry 2 or Ninja Gaiden 2 AAA before Ive played them.

I said that I was looking more forward to SO4 than FF13, going by the game info we have.

I said that Far Cry 2's graphics were excellent nothing about the game being AAA.

And Ninja Gaiden 2 I is another I never said it would be AAA. I said it was an amazing Hacker and the best yet after beating it.

 



selnor don't make me laugh harder than I already am. Yeah the person who reviewed 50cents game might love being a wannabe gangster. doesnt mean its a better game



Max King of the Wild said:
selnor don't make me laugh harder than I already am. Yeah the person who reviewed 50cents game might love being a wannabe gangster. doesnt mean its a better game

 

 I didnt say it was a better game. Everyone has their own opinion of what the best game is.

What my point was is that alot of people here (not everyone) will believe nothing else other than AAA for KZ2 because of hype. Whereas the average guy and gal wont have that influence. These guys who reviewed this probably never heard of the game before.