CHEATER! but I quoted you, so here is the truth and your plan failed.

Yea exactly, and i even forgot the Resistance 2 one. What i am trying to say Ninjakido, is that a significant part of LBP's sales in europe (and those other games) are because they were heavily bundled in mainland europe, and a little later in UK, we had those bundles since november if i recall correctly. We are going off topic with this thread, because it's about KZ2 sales, but I'm just warning you and others, that you cannot expect the same or better sales from KZ2 judging on past sales from bundled games in a holiday season.

*sigh*...Ok they are all official bundles pat yourself on the back NJ , now please tell me the significance of this.

Neos the fact that there are more official bundles gives weight to LBP not being bundled massivley unless you'd like to argue that the vast majority of PS3's being sold in the EU are bundled , even then you still coudln't proove LBP was being massivley bundled.

You made a statement you couldn't back up , I called you out on that . 4-6 posts later your still talkin nonsense that adds little to your original point.

I give up Neos it's clear that you don't respond to reason .

450K first week, 2.3 million ltd...

There is no argument about that, it's a fact. Why would you buy a ps3 for 400 euros, if you can buy (even if you don't like the game/genre) the same ps3 with a game for 400 euros. Second i give a percentage of LBP buyers that have bought it in a bundle in an educated guess. Just like pachter does. Want to call the police for that?

It is very hard to decide what this game will do... i mean if Sony market this and get loads of adverts out there the game could well do 1-1.5 million first week, but if Sony do their usual thing of not advertising a game at all this could do around 500-700k first week.

Here's hoping that Sony get their finger out this year and make use of the advertising team they have, as long as they sack the EU one as they are so amazingly useless!!

half a million first week i am thinking that the recession might hurt the game in feburary but it should have good legs esepcailly in the europe so maybe around 4 million by the end of the year however if the multiplayer is as good as the halo franchise it might be able to hit 10 million ltd depends on how its recived by fans and owners of both systems

100k first week.

The significance is that it proves that LBP is mass-bundled. As for your discussion with Neos, please carry on.