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FishyJoe said:
Here's another number from IGN, Wii Music sold 865k in 2008! Million selling in 2009 confirmed!

So it must have sold around 480K units in December ( probably eleventh spot ).

 



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Well I'm sure the Wii discussions will go on forever but that's ok. They still sold out so there's really nothing we can do about this. But it's bad for our credbility but everyone else's as well haha. But I'll still wait on the financial reports, like always, to see who was really right although NPD is probably closer.

Anyways, software is ungodly for all. Wii Play, a game released a hell of a lot longer ago is the one to top the charts and that's quite impressive. COD : WAW on both platforms does awesome while taking out the respective big exclusive shooters, Gears 2 and Resistance 2 easily. GH: WT on Wii continues to easily be the best selling version. VGC has once again undermined that in sales and separation from other platform version sales. L4D sells a lot more than we say and puts up 360's 3rd shooter in the top 10. All were shooters by the way. MK DS, though is the biggest surprise being DS's big title. Finally, AC:CF hits up the charts with almost have a million.

Probably a hell of a lot of titles that did in between 300k-500k mark so we'll wait as those are slowly disclosed. Biggest hardware and software ever in December so great year.



Brett said:

No adjustments this month guys, I'm happy with all of our figures. I believe the disparity in Wii sales is more of a cumulative thing over the year and maybe adjustments being made to ensure that year end totals line up, similar with MK Wii.

Everything else looks to be in good agreement - well within any margins of error that we would expect.

 

Sweet! Good to hear.




alpha_dk said:
TWRoO said:
alpha_dk said:
TWRoO said:
DMeisterJ said:
Oyvoyvoyv said:
TheSource said:

I'm very suspicious of the Wii number given that December had five weeks and that November had four.

2.04m/4 weeks in Nov = 510k/week

2.15m/5 weeks in Dec = 430k/week

 

Does anyone really believe Nintendo would ship more in November weeks than in December weeks? If they just sent a massive allocation for November and hoped it would hold and sent a comparable allocation for December its a pretty terrible tactical decision.

November software:

 1. Gears of War 2 (Microsoft, Xbox 360) - 1.56 million
2. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, Xbox 360) - 1.41 million
3. Wii Play (Nintendo, Wii) - 796,000
4. Wii Fit (Nintendo, Wii) - 697,000
5. Mario Kart (Nintendo, Wii) - 637,00
6. Call of Duty: World At War (Activision Blizzard, PS3) - 597,000 
7. Guitar Hero: World Tour (Activision Blizzard, Wii) - 475,000 
8. Left 4 Dead (Electronic Arts, Xbox 360) - 410,000
9. Resistance 2 (Sony, PlayStation 3) - 385,000
10. Wii Music (Nintendo, Wii) - 297,000

 

 

December software:

1. Wii Play w/ remote - Wii – Nintendo – 1.46 million
2. Call of Duty: World at War - Xbox 360 – Activision – 1.33 million*
3. Wii Fit w/ balance board – Wii – Nintendo – 999K
4. Mario Kart Wii w/ wheel – Wii – Nintendo – 979K
5. Guitar Hero: World Tour - Wii – Activision – 850K*
6. Gears of War 2 - Xbox 360 – Microsoft – 745K*
7. Left 4 Dead - Xbox 360 – Electronic Arts – 629K
8. Mario Kart - DS – Nintendo – 540K
9. Call of Duty: World at War - PS3 – Activision – 533K
10. Animal Crossing: City Folk - Wii – Nintendo – 497K*

 

Total for each

November: 7264K

December: 8562K

 

Pr week that is

November: 1816K

December: 1712K

 

So the top 10 software was actually lower in December than in November? Seems a bit fishy to me.

5 weeks versus 4 weeks, and lack of Black friday doesn't seem too fishy at all.

 

How long have you been here DMJ....December is the 5 week month. but that doesn't matter, he accounted for that by figuring out the weekly.

The other thing that is fishy by the way, is the huge rise in Wii Play sales, because Wii Play generally follows the hardware sales because new Wii owners buy it to get an extra controller.... so wtf is Wii Play doing almost doubling it's sales from Nov-Dec when the Wii barely rose.

If there was a supply issue with the Wii, fewer people would have bought Wii Play.

 

Last year, Wii Nov sales were approximately Wii December sales, and Wii Play Nov. sales were about half Wii Play Dec. sales.  As much as I hate to admit it, this does have historical precidence.  (Americas only used for the comparison)

What I can't remember is whether either month were 5-week months last year.  Is it the same every year? So was December 2007 a 5-week month?

Yes, the weeks are always the same.

Last year Wii was 981k in Nov, and 1,350k in Dec..... that's about a 45% increase... I don't have figures for Wii play from NPD.... but by VGC it doesn't quite double.

So last year, Wii went up 45% in December (from November)  and Wii Play up about 85%.

This year Wii went up 5% and Wii Play went up 83%

 

For November I see 1,378: http://vgchartz.com/amonthly.php?month=11&year=2007&console=&maker=&boxartz=1

 

NDP was wrong last year in December, I cleary remember this, ioi adjusted down for NDP, then he had to reajust back to where we were when fiscals came out. Also, If this 2.3 million is correct nintendo is not on track to make their shipments goals, something I highly doupt.

 



End of 2009 Predictions (Set, January 1st 2009)

Wii- 72 million   3rd Year Peak, better slate of releases

360- 37 million   Should trend down slightly after 3rd year peak

PS3- 29 million  Sales should pick up next year, 3rd year peak and price cut

Squilliam said:
Brett said:

No adjustments this month guys, I'm happy with all of our figures. I believe the disparity in Wii sales is more of a cumulative thing over the year and maybe adjustments being made to ensure that year end totals line up, similar with MK Wii.

Everything else looks to be in good agreement - well within any margins of error that we would expect.

The HERO has spoken!

 

 

 

 Wait, did he just get demoted? Boss > Hero, right?

You have no right to demote the boss, you simple... obsessive?

Also, you need to quote DMJ and say "The GOD has spoken" :D



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bigjon said:
alpha_dk said:
*snup*

For November I see 1,378: http://vgchartz.com/amonthly.php?month=11&year=2007&console=&maker=&boxartz=1

 

NDP was wrong last year in December, I cleary remember this, ioi adjusted down for NDP, then he had to reajust back to where we were when fiscals came out. Also, If this 2.3 million is correct nintendo is not on track to make their shipments goals, something I highly doupt.

 

I was using entirely VGC data, not NPD.

 



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Kenology said:
outlawauron said:
Ouch at Wii. That was pretty bad.

Everything else but 360 is pretty good.

Are you saying "ouch" at us overtracking the Wii?  Or are you saying "ouch" at 2.15 million consoles sold and calling that "pretty bad"?

At the overtracking. I don't really care about the actual numbers, I just want VGC to do well!

 



The DS really did set a new record. No other system has ever sold 3 million units in any monthly NPD result.



Oyvoyvoyv said:
Squilliam said:
Brett said:

No adjustments this month guys, I'm happy with all of our figures. I believe the disparity in Wii sales is more of a cumulative thing over the year and maybe adjustments being made to ensure that year end totals line up, similar with MK Wii.

Everything else looks to be in good agreement - well within any margins of error that we would expect.

The HERO has spoken!

 

 

 

 Wait, did he just get demoted? Boss > Hero, right?

You have no right to demote the boss, you simple... obsessive?

Also, you need to quote DMJ and say "The GOD has spoken" :D

Kratos is a Hero, and he took down GODS. Since Brett is > than Kratos then he is also > than Gods.

 



Tease.

celine said:
luisgvm said:
was any console down YOY? 

In December ? All the Sony systems but only slightly.

 

 

i see only in december but for the whole year the ps3 went up and the psp stay the same i think people should see the ps3 sales in a little bit more objective way i think that the problem with the worldwide economic crysis hurt the sales of the ps3 because is the most expensive console and people are going to buy the most cheap i guess and with the new price cut of the 360 it was like twice the punch for the ps3 so i think that the ps3 is like overshadowed and if i am correct the ps3 had a price cut last december so there was like a hype for the ps3 last december.