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DMeisterJ said:
Fumanchu said:
WiiStation360 said:
This does not surprise me.

I have two or three Games for Windows live accounts that count in MS LIVE account total. Whenever I need one, I always forget the account that I created, so I created a new account.

he thing that hurts that argument is that when MS spouted off their numbers they said that a majority of the 17million were paying subscribers. Obviously no one can refute this because no one would know the numbers other than them but that's what was stated in the press release.

No, they said a majority were "gold".

IIRC, every system comes with five Gold subscriptions for one month, which aren't paid for. So... >_>

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/technology/2009/01/microsoft-xbox.html

"He also credited the company's online game service, Xbox Live. The company said it now has 17 million Xbox Live subscribers who can use their consoles to find online opponents, download games or watch movies and TV shows. Though many Xbox Live subscribers opt for the free version of the service, Greenberg said that the majority pay $50 a year for the premium service, which includes the ability for Netflix members to view the service's Instant Watch movies and television shows for free."

 



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now just need mircosoft to tell us there side so everyone knows.



via their website = bullshit numbers



PREDICTIONS:
(Predicted on 5/31/11) END of 2011 Sales - Xbox 360 = 62M;  PS3 = 59M;  Wii = 97M

markers said:
now just need mircosoft to tell us there side so everyone knows.

 

sega4life said:

(Got the text below from this article)

 

Q) Microsoft recently claimed 17 million Live users and 28 million Xbox 360s sold...

A) Greenberg: Active users.


Q) Active. So what's the total of Live members that you've accumulated?

A) Greenberg: Uh... A significantly larger number than 17 million. To be clear, we are pretty conservative on how we report our members. It is active members — you have to own an Xbox 360 and if you're not active in the last six months, we recycle the gamertag and we remove your account. It is a true number of the people we have on the service.

I think it's important to note, if you compare those to PSN, those numbers you can have just a PSP, you can create an account on the Web. We don't count Web accounts.

You're an active member on PSN until you create an account. So, essentially forever. It's definitely apples to oranges when you compare those numbers.



PS4 Preordered - 06/11/2013 @09:30am

XBox One Preordered - 06/19/2013 @07:57pm

"I don't trust #XboxOne & #Kinect 2.0, it's always connected" as you tweet from your smartphone - irony 0_o

"Truth, but the numbers are big and look good for both sides so they obviously flaunt it. It's like that girl across the bar with the obviously over-done boob job. The boobs are big, albeit obviously fake, both sides like the boobs, so she is gonna flaunt it."

Can't beat this analogy. :)



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Not good...



4 ≈ One

sega4life said:
markers said:
now just need mircosoft to tell us there side so everyone knows.

 

sega4life said:

(Got the text below from this article)

 

Q) Microsoft recently claimed 17 million Live users and 28 million Xbox 360s sold...

A) Greenberg: Active users.


Q) Active. So what's the total of Live members that you've accumulated?

A) Greenberg: Uh... A significantly larger number than 17 million. To be clear, we are pretty conservative on how we report our members. It is active members — you have to own an Xbox 360 and if you're not active in the last six months, we recycle the gamertag and we remove your account. It is a true number of the people we have on the service.

I think it's important to note, if you compare those to PSN, those numbers you can have just a PSP, you can create an account on the Web. We don't count Web accounts.

You're an active member on PSN until you create an account. So, essentially forever. It's definitely apples to oranges when you compare those numbers.

 

yesyes this can still show xbox users and not just 360 users. i know it may sound silly but i do know a few people who have the original xbox plugged in and on live. so thats what i was wondering, is this straight 360 numbers or just live in general.



Microsoft's Live figures include Games for Windows Live members. :P



makingmusic476 said:
Microsoft's Live figures include Games for Windows Live members. :P

Well apparently they don't...

Read quoted post above yours.

 



makingmusic476 said:
Microsoft's Live figures include Games for Windows Live members. :P


well if that was the case, then why can't I use my XBL on Gaming For Windows?

I have to buy a separate Gaming For Windows XBL account in order to play.

Like Xbox to Xbox 360 my XBL works for both, but yet not for XBLWindows.

 

Well I guess I answered my own question.

 



PS4 Preordered - 06/11/2013 @09:30am

XBox One Preordered - 06/19/2013 @07:57pm

"I don't trust #XboxOne & #Kinect 2.0, it's always connected" as you tweet from your smartphone - irony 0_o