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DKII said:
Khuutra said:
Torillian said:

I'll admit I don't really get your third question.

I apologize, and will do my best to clarify.

What I mean is that we would talk about what a game is about, dissecting it in a way that echoes cinematic and literary criticism. Most video game reviews discuss plot and music and so forth, maybe a charater or two, but they rarely dip into what a game is about on the whole, the subjects that it tackles or the way that it interacts with the player. A critical analysis of Wii Sports would be fascinating and no less deep than a critical analysis of Final Fantasy IV DS or even Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords, but each of them would be very different because each game sets out to and accomplishes very different things.

These are consumer reviews, meant to inform people whether or not the game is worth a purchase.  Frankly most cinematic/literary criticism doesn't do that job and is just pretentious.

Oof. That's an argument for another day... but all right, never mind, then.

I didn't expect something in line with how Ebert reviews movies to be rejected out of hand, though.



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DKII said:

These are consumer reviews, meant to inform people whether or not the game is worth a purchase.  Frankly most cinematic/literary criticism doesn't do that job and is just pretentious.

Actually, I've had time to think this over, and frankly, sir, that's a load of bull. Most cinematic criticism comes in the form of consumer reviews, and that does nothing but tell people if a movie is worth watching. It just operates according to a critical standard that actually involves criticism, instead of a categorical statement of quality that pretends to something as ludicrous as an objective perspective.

I find your statement ridiculous and worrisome.



Does it matter how long you have been a member of the site? I am an aspiring writer and I have always contemplated starting out as a reviewer. I will send in one or two reviews if you have no objections. I have a fully backwards compatible PS3 so I can do games from any generation of playstation. A Wii and by extension a gamecube. And a PSP. I will acquire a ds shortly.



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Signalstar said:
Does it matter how long you have been a member of the site? I am an aspiring writer and I have always contemplated starting out as a reviewer. I will send in one or two reviews if you have no objections. I have a fully backwards compatible PS3 so I can do games from any generation of playstation. A Wii and by extension a gamecube. And a PSP. I will acquire a ds shortly.

 

No, that doesn't matter. Obviously it helps if you're already known on the site, but the only thing that really matters is whether you're a good reviewer. 

So let the reviews come!



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Khuutra said:
DKII said:

These are consumer reviews, meant to inform people whether or not the game is worth a purchase.  Frankly most cinematic/literary criticism doesn't do that job and is just pretentious.

Actually, I've had time to think this over, and frankly, sir, that's a load of bull. Most cinematic criticism comes in the form of consumer reviews, and that does nothing but tell people if a movie is worth watching. It just operates according to a critical standard that actually involves criticism, instead of a categorical statement of quality that pretends to something as ludicrous as an objective perspective.

I find your statement ridiculous and worrisome.

 

Games aren't the same as movies or books, so they shouldn't be reviewed the same. A review should be something that highlights strong points and issues of a game. The score should be a ballpark judgement of how those strong points and issues rate with a target audience. Someone should be able to read a review and see what things they want and what things they don't want that the game offers.  Above all, a review should be complete.  It should note all possible issues and benefits of owning the game.

The purpose of our reviews isn't to tell you what your opinion should be, but to let you decide for yourself based on a complete listing of a game's features, functions, and issues and add a ballpark score on top for those who like to have a little more guidance.

So yeah, that's how I'd like our reviews to work.

@ Signalstar please send me a sample. I'm looking for quality writing more than long-time members, although I do expect you to be fairly active as a reviewer.  A couple a month isn't too much to ask though.



Maybe I should review Fallout 3. I think it is pretty disgraceful it was given a B.



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tuoyo said:
Maybe I should review Fallout 3. I think it is pretty disgraceful it was given a B.

 

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naznatips said:
Khuutra said:
DKII said:

These are consumer reviews, meant to inform people whether or not the game is worth a purchase.  Frankly most cinematic/literary criticism doesn't do that job and is just pretentious.

Actually, I've had time to think this over, and frankly, sir, that's a load of bull. Most cinematic criticism comes in the form of consumer reviews, and that does nothing but tell people if a movie is worth watching. It just operates according to a critical standard that actually involves criticism, instead of a categorical statement of quality that pretends to something as ludicrous as an objective perspective.

I find your statement ridiculous and worrisome.

 

Games aren't the same as movies or books, so they shouldn't be reviewed the same. A review should be something that highlights strong points and issues of a game. The score should be a ballpark judgement of how those strong points and issues rate with a target audience. Someone should be able to read a review and see what things they want and what things they don't want that the game offers.  Above all, a review should be complete.  It should note all possible issues and benefits of owning the game.

The purpose of our reviews isn't to tell you what your opinion should be, but to let you decide for yourself based on a complete listing of a game's features, functions, and issues and add a ballpark score on top for those who like to have a little more guidance.

So yeah, that's how I'd like our reviews to work.

@ Signalstar please send me a sample. I'm looking for quality writing more than long-time members, although I do expect you to be fairly active as a reviewer.  A couple a month isn't too much to ask though.

The review you have outlined is not complete by any stretch of the imagination.

When is the due date for the samples?



^-- That wasn't an outline, it's a guide. :p

There's no due date, we're taking submissions until we have enough good ones.