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ssj12 on 08 January 2009
XGamer0611 said:
ssj12 said:
coasterlove said:

I don't mean that 100% and I do think it is the future of home entertainment as the picture quality is great along with HDTV. What bothers me is that I'm trying to find a Blu-Ray player and don't feel like paying a lot of money for it. It seems to just get a decent working player, you need to spend well over $300. At that price, I might as well spend a little more and buy a PS3 which at $400, I'm not very interested in since I just bought an Xbox 360.

I've been reading up a little bit on the players on various sites and some reviews. The problem I'm seeing is that some of the cheaper players ($200-299) don't neccessarily play all the discs and seem to need constant updating. I don't want to bother with that. I just want to buy a player and some movies and enjoy them. I don't want to have to hook them up online and then look for firmware updates...if they even exsist yet depending on the brand of player you buy. It already makes me miss the days of DVD where you can go out and buy a player and be reasonably assured it would play virtually any DVD unless it was some really cheap player or just defective.

Something else I think is dumb is that Blu-Ray is supposed to be so state of the art but if I'm not mistaken, some models don't even support DTS decoding or other of the top notch sound support. Some reviews mention that many players don't support newer features like BD or dick extras? Also, I'm reading what's included in the box and it seems that often times, an HDMI cord isn't included? Maybe I'm wrong there and misread it. If I did read it right, that's silly, what's the point of a Blu-Ray player and 1080p if it doesn't even come with the cable to best support the player? The cords aren't cheap so that's more money you have to spend along with the fact you can't best enjoy your new player right out of the box.

Now I'm not a technophile so I won't be surprised if I'm wrong on some of the info. If so, help me out to better understand all this. I also wouldn't mind hearing some opinions and reviews for the best Blu-Ray players out there for a reasonable price.

 

1. The PS3 is still one of the best players. It isnt the best anymore but its up there. If you get the PS3 you at elast get access to a ton of games that are only available or sometimes runs better on the console.

2. Its because of the different software profiles. Look at it this way, all current HDMI tech is useless compared to the upcoming specs since the new spec will be able to send data back and forth between connected units unlike current cables. At this moment this improvement is useless but in the future the ability to have internet through HDMI will be a benefit but it is still unneeded. Tech is always evolving, this is also why ethernet cables are up to spec 6.

If DTS encoding is so important to you will have to find a true BR Spec 2.0 player as even the PS3 cant decode DTS.

Not true the PS3 decodes DTS just not DTS-HD.

 

 

hmm... ok than. Not a massive difference in codexs minus the size of the content streams.



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Blappo on 08 January 2009
ssj12 said:

If DTS encoding is so important to you will have to find a true BR Spec 2.0 player as even the PS3 cant decode DTS.

A firmware update for the PS3 (ver. 2.3) gave the PS3 the ability to decode DTS-HD and output multichannel PCM.  However, it cannot output the raw DTS-HD (or Dolby TrueHD) formats.



coasterlove on 08 January 2009

ssj12, DTS is fairly important to me because the way I see it is if I'm upgrading to the best in picture quality, wouldn't I also want the best in sound? Not to mention the DVD player I have now has DTS decoding so it would almost seem to silly to "downgrade" in sound in a sense. I just feel if I'm upgrading, sound is part of the equation.

ChronotriggerJM said:
Picture quality is a HUGE issue that really forces me into blu-ray. If you have under a 40" tv, you'll probably notice color difference, and "some" clarity, not much, but some. Around 40" you start to really see the difference as DVD's start looking pretty mucky. Anything bigger than a 50" and you can pretty much forget about DVD's... The picture just get's stretched entirely too far and it's just horrible. If you have an HD TV and aren't using a DVD upscaler, then I feel REALLY bad for you. The difference is just obscene.

 

 I bought the DVD player I use now a year ago or more and didn't have a HDTV then but it was an upscaler though. However, it only does to 1080i, not p. So I have HD, just not the best. That's another reason I want a Blu-Ray player. I need something to go along with my 46" HDTV. Though I wish I had waited a little on that too since the newer 120h TV's are ridiculous. I saw those and started to drool a little bit.



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DragonLord on 08 January 2009

Your best bet is either to buck out the extra $100 and get a ps3 or just wait until summer when the prices will have fallen even more hopefully...or even wait until this spring when the ps3 will most likely drop price to $299 since it is usually rated as the best blu-ray player on the market by most.



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xenophon13 on 08 January 2009

You u even have a receiver that can play true dts? If not then you don't need to worry about it.



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xenophon13 on 08 January 2009

Also most upscalers suck unless you go with a high end like denon or pioneer.



colonelstubbs on 08 January 2009

The only thing that bugs me about blu ray is that a lot of movies dont have the special features they had on the dvd version, which is stupid considering logicaly speaking they should have more features



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Barozi on 08 January 2009

I need yet to buy a Blu-Ray movie...



disolitude on 08 January 2009
coasterlove said:

Something else I think is dumb is that Blu-Ray is supposed to be so state of the art but if I'm not mistaken, some models don't even support DTS decoding or other of the top notch sound support. Some reviews mention that many players don't support newer features like BD or dick extras? Also, I'm reading what's included in the box and it seems that often times, an HDMI cord isn't included? Maybe I'm wrong there and misread it. If I did read it right, that's silly, what's the point of a Blu-Ray player and 1080p if it doesn't even come with the cable to best support the player? The cords aren't cheap so that's more money you have to spend along with the fact you can't best enjoy your new player right out of the box.

 

 Could you tell me more about these dick extras. I'd like to apply...



coasterlove on 08 January 2009
xenophon13 said:
You u even have a receiver that can play true dts? If not then you don't need to worry about it.


Yes, I believe so. Unless by "true", you mean something else. Keep in mind, I don't understand everything about Blu-Ray and HD for that matter. I think that's one of the problems with this new technology. Many people don't keep up with this and will buy one of the cheaper players not knowing the lack of features and will be disappointed. Anyhow, going back to my receiver, it says "DTS" on it and plays DVD's with DTS on it and can play the sound with DTS selected from the menu.

I'll come up with something better eventually...