Just another low life nerd....

Some thoughts on the discussion herein

First of all, people are entitled to their own opinions. It is only in this age that one person can create a website and make it look like their opinion is more important than any one else's opinion.

Second, the Wii is not for everyone. If it does not do it for you -- by all means move on. No one is stopping you.

Third, the Wii is winning by going around the "hardcore' group to a certain extent rather than catering to them. That's where the hate is coming from.

Fourth, losing consoles of previous generations had their fanatical followings. It is just that the Internet did not exist to keep things going. Why else would people still be making homebrew games for the Dreamcast or the Intellivision.

Fifth, the NES was judged to be childish by those who first saw it who grew up playing the classic machines -- at least that is my story and I am sticking to it. (Gun games -- how pong-era? Top-loading -- looks like a toaster? Those colors and graphics -- how cartoony? ROB -- Give me a break?)

Sixth, Atari sold 30M of its 2600 consoles because it had the most best games. In that time period, arcade ports were the rage and Atari usually had the money to buy what it wanted (Microsoft did not invent this). So to get the home versions of the most popular games, you had to buy the Atari console. It was the first place to bring home Defender, Centipede, Pacman, etc.

Finally, back to the OP -- this is not the time to abandon the Wii. The game lineup appears to be strengthening -- with some blood and guts games thrown in for those who like them. RPGs are appearing finally. And while the graphics are not HD -- they are not bad. Plus, motion control is only going to get better.

Mike from Morgantown

There was no faulty reasoning.  Perhaps you need to step off your logical high horse, as logic gets you nowhere when based on false assumption. You were the one who misconstrued the meaning of random sampling and then assumed i claimed i could account for the 21 million Gamecube owners by trawling through message boards.  I never made such a claim.  I think there are an awful lot of people claiming they owned the Gamecube according to how popular it was, my opinion.  You claim i can't know that according to lack of sample size, your opinion and i would agree with it if i was stating my opinion as a fact.  Our difference of opinion is one of magnitude not of reasoning so please do me the courtesy of not talking to me like i'm a three year old.

I am all for reviewers in their sexy outfit reviewing the sexy games. I don't care about the biased part :)

"if there were as many of you as a random sampling on message boards would suggest then the Cube would have sold alot better than it did"

that is faulty reasoning. You are trying to say that you think there are more people on message boards claiming they are nintendo fans than you would expect from Gamecube sales. But there is no reason that the number of Gamecubes sold could not easily account for the number and fraction of these people you see claiming themselves as Nintendo fans.

And come now, if I was talking to you like you were a three year old I wouldn't use nearly as big of words. I'm probably keeping it to High School at worse, and that's just because I always talk like that on forums as I don't want to sound like a pompous ass and use a bunch of big words on the internet (and also I could misuse one of those words and quickly look like an even bigger ass)

We are simply having a discussion based on a leap of logic you insinuated, I am not trying to talk down to you.

Well said. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean you have to bach their opinion. You like your Wii, they don't. If they have reasoning and aren't bashing wantonly, what's the big deal?

At the risk of getting bashed by everyone--I just sold my Wii. I felt the upcoming games were not enough to make me want to keep it. When I first came up with the idea, yeah, it was to possibly buy a PS3 to replace it, but considering current financial matters I just kept to money to pay bills. If I want to play video games for now it's either have to be SNES, N64 or PC (well, Mac) games, or going to friends' houses.

You can very much be a huge Nintendo fan and want to sell the Wii. I loved SMG, RE4 and MP3, liked Twilight Princess, SSBB, Wii Sports and No More Heroes, but still decdied to sell it because nothing on the horizon interested me, and because of the rhetoric of the company. It's one thing that upcoming games don't excite me: The Conduit looks fairly generic beyond controls (though I did love MP3's controls, no, I don't think that's enough), Punch Out has never been my thing, and Madworld...well, I have no idea about Madworld, really. But I could have dealt with that and waited for for some more Nintendo games or even better upcoming 3rd parties if it weren't for the way everyone in the company started talking. It isn't disruption anymore, it's accessability. Specifically, it's Miyamoto saying he wants the next Zelda to be more accessible to all players. I love Zelda. It has long been my favorite franchise--hell, I bought an N64 specifically to play Ocarina of Time, and for a long time the only two games I owned for the system were OoT and MM. I loved WW, which I played on my little sister's Gamecube. And then I only liked TP. It was too easy. Long and involved, sure, but nothing extremely memorable, like the Water Temple in OoT or the fourth temple in MM. And now Miyamoto's saying the next one will be even easier and more accessbiel? When what made the series so good was the puzzles? Well, that's when they lost me. I've already seen my second favorite franchise ever (Sim City) seemly destroyed by a similar plan (if only Sim City 5 would come and wash away the disappoitment of Sim City Societies, Creator and Spore), and it hurts to see such a thing happen to my beloved Zelda.

I'm not saying it's bad for the company, or that I'm owed it or anything. It's ismply not for me, and as such I sold the system.

Furthermore, yes, the processing differences between the systems DO matter. I'm not a graphics nut. But the 360 and the PS3 can do things that the Wii can't, plain and simple. Destructable environments. Number of enemies on the screen. These things are important. Could Portal be made on the Wii? I don't know. The dynamic physics of your falls and the portals are not something I know the Wii can do--I haven't seen any Wii games yet where walls have the interactivite abilities that Portal requires.

Again, I'm not saying this is true for everone, but there are indeed reasons to sell one's Wii, even as a lifelong Nintendo nut such as myself. Just because I'm sayign this doesn't mean I'm personally insulting all Wii owners who feel differently.

Yeah, I sure ain't abandoning my console anytime soon, any of my consoles, especially since Ghostbusters is coming out in June, and it looks great on the Wii.

Another opinion on the internet. Hasn't it run out of room for these yet?

That's the beauty of the internet. There's always more room.

It's like a toilet that you never have to flush!

OMG, now THIS is pathetic, don't these people have something better to do than writing hateful articles about Wii?

i mean, this is overdone, if he doens't like Wii he can simply shut up and play his Xbox360...

this person is giving a horrible impression of core gamers...

well, many core gamers hate the Wii, but Wii should not really care, Wii are going to enjoy Dragon Quest X, MH3, new Zelda, Conduit, motion plus and a hell of other games, Wii has the best 2009 lineup and i'm very afraid that Wii Motion Plus will be double monsterous than Wii Fit and Mario Kart.....

i think it's time to change my sig, LoL!!