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EdGuila said:
Didn't they already bribe rareware??

 

 Ms owns Rareware, they purchased them last generation from Nintendo.



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Because no console company exists in a vacuum. Their actions also effect the companies and people around them. When you contrive a different set of circumstances surrounding known events it always has unexpected consequences. These unexpected consequences may be for the better or worse and you simply don't know because once you change things you're heading into unfamiliar territory. Therefore saying that if they did X instead of Y, things would definately be better is untrue.



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Onimusha12 said:
EdGuila said:
Didn't they already bribe rareware??

 

 Ms owns Rareware, they purchased them last generation from Nintendo.

 

 That's what I meant.  Instead of creating great games themselves did did the usual andbought "the great games" out.



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PS3 library:  Motorstorm, Assasin's Creed, Orange Box, Uncharted:DF, Metal Gear Solid 4, Resistance:FOM, Rachet & Clank Future:ToD,

Near future: Folklore, SOCOM Confrontation, BioShock, Little Big Planet, Resistance 2.

heruamon said:
I'm not sure they will, since that leaves you open to the other guy. M$ went after sony and nintendo snuck past them, and are now out of reach, so imho, the wii went after a ideal, and that led to success.

The Wii didn't sneak past anything. That gunman walked in the front door and blew everyone else away. Nintendo had this generation won before they fired their first shot. It was Sony and Microsoft who brought the knives, but Nintendo changed the rules and brought the gun to a knife fight.

 



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Squilliam said:
"Microsoft doesn't pose a real threat"

To be honest if you consider the number of first party studios to pay for, keeping the PS3 at a low marketshare and severely diminishing their console sales through competition, Microsoft could cause SCE to self destruct.

See if most HD publishers are losing money then Sony first party studios must be losing money hand over fist considering they can only sell to 40% of the HD console userbase. That $6 saved from console owner royalties is a pittance next to being able to address 100% of the HD console userbase.

 

First and second party titles always bring in more money than third party titles. This is why Nintendo was fine for the last two generations, and it's why the Gamecube was the only console to turn a consistent profit all throughout last generation. It's also the reason why MS has lost so much money. Aside from Halo, their first and second party sales aren't anything to write home about.

Sony's first party may not be up to par with Nintendo's, but it's a hell of a lot stronger than what MS has to offer. If 360 exclusive third-party titles started to go multi-platform and/or change hands, then MS would be in a lot more trouble than Sony is right now.



 

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Squilliam said:
Because no console company exists in a vacuum. Their actions also effect the companies and people around them. When you contrive a different set of circumstances surrounding known events it always has unexpected consequences. These unexpected consequences may be for the better or worse and you simply don't know because once you change things you're heading into unfamiliar territory. Therefore saying that if they did X instead of Y, things would definately be better is untrue.

I'm curious as to how anything I've said suggests any of the console companies exist in a vacuum. Perhaps you're just borrowing terminologies that sound good rather than actually fit the situation? You are entitled to think whatever you like, but as I've already pointed out you don't have adequate logic to back your claims or ideologies, just vague and dodgey "well, anything could happen" deferments to any real substance.

 



Lord N said:
Squilliam said:
"Microsoft doesn't pose a real threat"

To be honest if you consider the number of first party studios to pay for, keeping the PS3 at a low marketshare and severely diminishing their console sales through competition, Microsoft could cause SCE to self destruct.

See if most HD publishers are losing money then Sony first party studios must be losing money hand over fist considering they can only sell to 40% of the HD console userbase. That $6 saved from console owner royalties is a pittance next to being able to address 100% of the HD console userbase.

 

First and second party titles always bring in more money than third party titles. This is why Nintendo was fine for the last two generations, and it's why the Gamecube was the only console to turn a consistent profit all throughout last generation. It's also the reason why MS has lost so much money. Aside from Halo, their first and second party sales aren't anything to write home about.

Sony's first party may not be up to par with Nintendo's, but it's a hell of a lot stronger than what MS has to offer. If 360 exclusive third-party titles started to go multi-platform and/or change hands, then MS would be in a lot more trouble than Sony is right now.

Microsofts 1st party efforts up until now have vastly exceeded the impact of Sonys 1st party games.

Halo 3... The Killzone 2 + RFOM 1/2 killer.

 



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Atari? Check. Sega? Check. Nec and 3D0? Check and Check. SNK? Check them off too.

Nintendo has been here for 3,000 years. They've survived everybody. Video games are their domain. I love my 360, but it hasn't exactly been a cash cow for Microsoft. If anything, Microsoft better hope Nintendo doesn't target THEM!! Nobody wants to be on.......the list.



I don't think that Microsoft is aiming for a niche HD market in gaming. Their goal is market leader in the console business and offer things beyond gaming OS OFFICE and Online services/shops. They will of course focus on gaming otherwise their console won't sell.

I believe that Microsoft and also Sony will say "OK Nintendo you were right last gen, but we also have motion controls in our new consoles and of course multimedia functionality".

HD + Motion isn't a win because it will be standard next gen. Microsoft will be stupid if they don' t see this new standard. Focussing on High-end graphics and releasing LIPS and SCENE IT kinda games won't work. Otherwise Sony would be king with Singstar and Buzz.



Onimusha12 said:
Squilliam said:
Because no console company exists in a vacuum. Their actions also effect the companies and people around them. When you contrive a different set of circumstances surrounding known events it always has unexpected consequences. These unexpected consequences may be for the better or worse and you simply don't know because once you change things you're heading into unfamiliar territory. Therefore saying that if they did X instead of Y, things would definately be better is untrue.

I'm curious as to how anything I've said suggests any of the console companies exist in a vacuum. Perhaps you're just borrowing terminologies that sound good rather than actually fit the situation? You are entitled to think whatever you like, but as I've already pointed out you don't have adequate logic to back your claims or ideologies, just vague and dodgey "well, anything could happen" deferments to any real substance.

 

You cannot predict the future. -> Established fact.

Butterfly effect -> "Small variations of the initial condition of a dynamical system may produce large variations in the long term behavior of the system"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect

Therefore you cannot say "Had Sony done this or that they would have been X"

 

 

 



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