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BTFeather55 said:
Fumanchu said:
BTFeather55 said:
PS3 still has a shot at first place especially if this industry is about quality games rather than fad controllers.

I'm still looking for my little packet of delusion that comes bundled with every PS3...oh that's right I gave it to you. Why don't you keep that as a comforter throughout Winter.

 

 

      I don't think it is any more delusional to think that the PS3 can come back in this industry any more than it was to believe that the University of Kentucky Wildcats basketball team was going to come back from 34 points down with 10 minutes to go against LSU in Baton Rouge in the 1993-1994 season or that UK was going to come back from being down 20 points to Duke in the NCAA tournament in 1998 and to go on to win the NCAA championship that year.  And do you know what happened in both instances?

 

 The fact that you have to reach that far back just shows such instances are rare, and far more the exception than the rule. Expecting a long shot to happen again with no good evidence for it is wishful thinking.



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I think people are betting to way to much on killzone2, ok this game may be great, but all of a sudden 10 million people are gonna rush to the store and get a ps3 just for this game. come on (yes that number may be over the top but still). It's not like the xbox360 is gonna all of sudden stop selling. To be reminded we played this scenario in 08, look what happen. If the ps3 can close the gap and come out strong all the way in 09, then 2010 is more of a real possibility. I know people are gonna huff and puff of what I said but I am being a realist.



If this was the begining of 08 I'd say yeah. However now I think it is highly unlikely. PS3 is not selling too well as is and to make up an 8 million console lead while trying to hit a moving target is even more difficult. I don't think there has ever been a console that has fallen behind like this to all of a sudden catch up and pass the lead (2nd place) console. This isn't Nascar, consumer confidence is not high for the PS3 and I highly doubt Killzone 2 will have a seismic effect on PS3 sales. Any person expecting it to do so is in for some disappointment.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

Arius Dion said:
If this was the begining of 08 I'd say yeah. However now I think it is highly unlikely. PS3 is not selling too well as is and to make up an 8 million console lead while trying to hit a moving target is even more difficult. I don't think there has ever been a console that has fallen behind like this to all of a sudden catch up and pass the lead (2nd place) console. This isn't Nascar, consumer confidence is not high for the PS3 and I highly doubt Killzone 2 will have a seismic effect on PS3 sales. Any person expecting it to do so is in for some disappointment.

 

      What was the gap between the Genesis and the SNES when the SNES was first released?



Heavens to Murgatoids.

Yeah it'll come second for sure



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BTFeather55 said:
Arius Dion said:
If this was the begining of 08 I'd say yeah. However now I think it is highly unlikely. PS3 is not selling too well as is and to make up an 8 million console lead while trying to hit a moving target is even more difficult. I don't think there has ever been a console that has fallen behind like this to all of a sudden catch up and pass the lead (2nd place) console. This isn't Nascar, consumer confidence is not high for the PS3 and I highly doubt Killzone 2 will have a seismic effect on PS3 sales. Any person expecting it to do so is in for some disappointment.

 

      What was the gap between the Genesis and the SNES when the SNES was first released?

 

 The genesis released first, (like the 360) but when the Snes was released and began closing the gap (like Ps3 was doing earlier last year) The Snes actually caught then passed the genesis and didn't look back. The Snes didn't fail to catch the Genesis and then fall behind even further.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

Arius Dion said:
BTFeather55 said:
Arius Dion said:
If this was the begining of 08 I'd say yeah. However now I think it is highly unlikely. PS3 is not selling too well as is and to make up an 8 million console lead while trying to hit a moving target is even more difficult. I don't think there has ever been a console that has fallen behind like this to all of a sudden catch up and pass the lead (2nd place) console. This isn't Nascar, consumer confidence is not high for the PS3 and I highly doubt Killzone 2 will have a seismic effect on PS3 sales. Any person expecting it to do so is in for some disappointment.

 

      What was the gap between the Genesis and the SNES when the SNES was first released?

 

 The genesis released first, (like the 360) but when the Snes was released and began closing the gap (like Ps3 was doing earlier last year) The Snes actually caught then passed the genesis and didn't look back. The Snes didn't fail to catch the Genesis and then fall behind even further.

 

      Yes, but what was the gap and when did the SNES close it?



Heavens to Murgatoids.

BTFeather55 said:
Arius Dion said:
BTFeather55 said:
Arius Dion said:
If this was the begining of 08 I'd say yeah. However now I think it is highly unlikely. PS3 is not selling too well as is and to make up an 8 million console lead while trying to hit a moving target is even more difficult. I don't think there has ever been a console that has fallen behind like this to all of a sudden catch up and pass the lead (2nd place) console. This isn't Nascar, consumer confidence is not high for the PS3 and I highly doubt Killzone 2 will have a seismic effect on PS3 sales. Any person expecting it to do so is in for some disappointment.

 

      What was the gap between the Genesis and the SNES when the SNES was first released?

 

 The genesis released first, (like the 360) but when the Snes was released and began closing the gap (like Ps3 was doing earlier last year) The Snes actually caught then passed the genesis and didn't look back. The Snes didn't fail to catch the Genesis and then fall behind even further.

 

      Yes, but what was the gap and when did the SNES close it?

 

 I'd reccomend asking TheSource.



Bet between Slimbeast and Arius Dion about Wii sales 2009:


If the Wii sells less than 20 million in 2009 (as defined by VGC sales between week ending 3d Jan 2009 to week ending 4th Jan 2010) Slimebeast wins and get to control Arius Dion's sig for 1 month.

If the Wii sells more than 20 million in 2009 (as defined above) Arius Dion wins and gets to control Slimebeast's sig for 1 month.

I believe the global financial crisis 2008-09 has ended the PS3's chances of coming second this generation. The last six months since July 2008 when the financial crisis was declared, Sony and PS3 and many other companies have been struggling due to the credit crunch. Sony can ill afford to cut price of PS3 in the near future. To do so could financially cripple Sony. It would not surprise me if Sony did not cut the price of PS3 during 2009 and just focus on trying to generate some profits.

Any PS3 price cut would wipe out the profits made on PS3 and Sony will be back in a loss making position in order trying to build its market share of this generation. Currently every PS3 sold generates a $50 loss for Sony. By August when the next revision on PS3 has been made, the cost of PS3 should be much lower and I expect a $50 to $100 profit could be made on every PS3 sold if the price is unchanged. A $100 price cut made by Sony post August 2009 would result in the PS3 being in an either $50 loss position or break even at best case scenario. The exchange rates will also have an impact on HD TV sales where HDTVs price could be increased. Expensive HDTVs are generally needed to get the benefits of PS3 and Blu-Ray.

MS would do a price cut themselves on the three SKU's just before Xmas to cash in on the pre-Xmas 2009 sales blitz. MS should get XBox 360 sales to match PS3 sales for 2009 or sell more than PS3 due to Xbox 360 offering the same experience at half the price of PS3. 90% of the games on Xbox 360 are on the PS3. Xbox 360 has some good exclusives of its own which are on par with the PS3 exclusives IMO. A Slimline Xbox 360 is expected to be released end of 2009 marking the fourth year anniversaey of XBox 360's launch and the start of the XBox 360's 5th year.

Financial markets fall once every 7 years and then recover. Financial markets are cyclical, rise and fall continuously over time.

*These are my predictions contained here, not official.

BTW: The PS3 has a very slim chance of finishing second it would take a miraculous comeback and assuming it sells longer than XBox 360.



EVERYONE LISTEN UP: xbox 360 released a year earlier than ps3, so ps3's cycle will end at least 12 months after 360's (whenver that is). so thats another 12 months of ps3 selling without 360 selling. now what do we have here.