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Look I really don't like bashing anyone or anything but i just gotta say be realistic here with all this fanboism aside. 100m by 2012 is very unrealistic. Just think very hard about trends and consumer spending not base on your projected image. Keep in mind console life span avg 5 to 6 years no matter how powerfull a console is unless they are the market leader.



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Also right now Sony to some people might look like invincible, but on the inside things are very tough and sony is walking a very thin line atm.



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mrstickball said:
What I don't get is how 'ahead of it's time' is the Playstation 3 vs. the Xbox 360 when the PS3 came out a year later and cost $200 more for the base price....What could the 360 of had with such a high price tag?

A harddrive and free online multiplayer.

Really, a lot of Sony R&D went into the PS3 regarding Blu-Ray and the Cell processor. Maybe Sony really gave Ken a bit too much power to realize his hardware ambitions than was good for Sony as a company regarding some of the core technology. But they did and Sony cannot turn back time (they will have to deal with this awesome tech now ), we PS3 users will enjoy the long term benefits.

Sony has no other oppertunity than to finish what Ken started.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

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MikeB said:
mrstickball said:
What I don't get is how 'ahead of it's time' is the Playstation 3 vs. the Xbox 360 when the PS3 came out a year later and cost $200 more for the base price....What could the 360 of had with such a high price tag?

A harddrive and free online multiplayer.

Really, a lot of Sony R&D went into the PS3 regarding Blu-Ray and the Cell processor. Maybe Sony really gave Ken a bit too much power to realize his hardware ambitions than was good for Sony as a company regarding some of the core technology. But they did and Sony cannot turn back time (they will have to deal with this awesome tech now ), we PS3 users will enjoy the long term benefits.

Sony has no other oppertunity than to finish what Ken started.

 

The $399 360 had no harddrive?  I thought it did.



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mrstickball said:
What I don't get is how 'ahead of it's time' is the Playstation 3 vs. the Xbox 360 when the PS3 came out a year later and cost $200 more for the base price....What could the 360 of had with such a high price tag?

 

My guess is it would have an HD-DVD drive and more RAM probably around 640MB instead of 512MB.

I agree early success for a console can be crucial, but the PS3 is already pretty successful in terms of install base compared to those consoles. Actually if Sony would have sold much more they could have lost billions of extra dollars on hardware investments.

Which is the chief reason why I feel the PS3 was poorly designed. When you launch a year after your competitor with a 50% ($200) higher price point, there should not be a debate on which console possess more power over two years after the fact. Not only that, Sony failed to meet it's initial sales projections, so they were planning on selling "much more."

For all of our back and forth, I have yet to see any solid reasoning for the PS3 to suddenly sell at PS2 levels to reach yours or Crazzyman's sales projections. I said way back in 2006, that price will always be an albatross around Sony's neck and that has bore out over the past couple of years. The fact that the PS3 will reach mass market pricing last is what will keep it from reaching your outlandish sales goals.

As I've said before, the consumers that pushed the PS1 and PS2 to their astronomical sales totals are buying Wii's and 360's as we speak. These casual consumers are single console owners for the most part. By the times these consumers look to buy new hardware the successors of the Wii, 360, and PS3 will be on their minds.



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appolose said:
MikeB said:
mrstickball said:
What I don't get is how 'ahead of it's time' is the Playstation 3 vs. the Xbox 360 when the PS3 came out a year later and cost $200 more for the base price....What could the 360 of had with such a high price tag?

A harddrive and free online multiplayer.

Really, a lot of Sony R&D went into the PS3 regarding Blu-Ray and the Cell processor. Maybe Sony really gave Ken a bit too much power to realize his hardware ambitions than was good for Sony as a company regarding some of the core technology. But they did and Sony cannot turn back time (they will have to deal with this awesome tech now ), we PS3 users will enjoy the long term benefits.

Sony has no other oppertunity than to finish what Ken started.

 

The $399 360 had no harddrive?  I thought it did.

He said 200 dollar difference, the PS3's entry pricing was actually 500 dollars for a 20 GB PS3, so a 200 dollar entry pricing difference. The 60 GB PS3 with extras like card readers and Wi-Fi costed 600 dollars at launch.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

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I was honestly wondering if MikeB's account hadn't been hacked by a very clever pretender, but then he made the Amiga comparison.

MikeB has finally cracked completely. He's making Crazzier predictions than the man himself.



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My guess is it would have an HD-DVD drive and more RAM probably around 640MB instead of 512MB.


More EDRAM (the 360's main bottleneck) and a harddrive (also for virtual memory) would IMO have been far more useful.

Note that HD DVD drives at the time (including the 360 HD DVD) drive is half as slow as the PS3's Blu-Ray drive and not even ready for mass production in time (it would have required a lot of investments).

More system RAM is always useful (if doing PC ports), but higher bandwidth is usually far more effective for a console (compare with the Neo Geo's potential for its time). Heavy streaming is IMO really the way to go for modern console games.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

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MikeB said:
appolose said:
MikeB said:
mrstickball said:
What I don't get is how 'ahead of it's time' is the Playstation 3 vs. the Xbox 360 when the PS3 came out a year later and cost $200 more for the base price....What could the 360 of had with such a high price tag?

A harddrive and free online multiplayer.

Really, a lot of Sony R&D went into the PS3 regarding Blu-Ray and the Cell processor. Maybe Sony really gave Ken a bit too much power to realize his hardware ambitions than was good for Sony as a company regarding some of the core technology. But they did and Sony cannot turn back time (they will have to deal with this awesome tech now ), we PS3 users will enjoy the long term benefits.

Sony has no other oppertunity than to finish what Ken started.

 

The $399 360 had no harddrive?  I thought it did.

He said 200 dollar difference, the PS3's entry pricing was actually 500 dollars for a 20 GB PS3, so a 200 dollar entry pricing difference. The 60 GB PS3 with extras like card readers and Wi-Fi costed 600 dollars at launch.

Oh, that's right; I forgot about the 20 gig.

 



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What are your thoughts on when each next gen system will come out?



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